i have never had much luck getting the parking brake cable out of them, even with the special tool that still doesn’t seem to work.
The "special tool" was the box end of an 8mm wrench. Works fine.
i have never had much luck getting the parking brake cable out of them, even with the special tool that still doesn’t seem to work.
The "special tool" was the box end of an 8mm wrench. Works fine.
O it was some special tool I picked up that was supposed to be for this and it never really worked. I think in the end I did end up using a box wrench, don’t recall the size.
Victor
86 K24 Powered CRX SI (SMF Solo2, HPDE-4 NASA & TA-A Time Attack
85 CRX DX totally original
07 Harley FXST Softail
2021 Tacoma Tow/Daily
The 1988 and later Civic backing plates will accept the aluminum drums. That is what I am using on my '87 Si.
I wish I had known that. I just removing the lip on the backing plates.
I found some numbers around the internet so nothing confirmed, the honda Insite aluminum drum is 4.75lbs for only the drum. The CRX Iron drum is 7.5lbs listed on rock auto.
Using this as a rough estimate for the crx is it safe to say the aluminum drums would drop 2.75bs per corner or drop 5.5lbs total?
If what you say is true, then I have the lightest drums possible (Insight drums). I have achieved greater unsprung weight reduction than Scott. What a great day!
The "special tool" was the box end of an 8mm wrench. Works fine.
What, there's a special tool? I just remember sliding it out with a plier some how and moving a tab.
O it was some special tool I picked up that was supposed to be for this and it never really worked. I think in the end I did end up using a box wrench, don’t recall the size.
Note that crx drum is the iron drum, not the HF aluminium weight, I couldn't find that number.
My bad. I did misread that.
"Ill gladly take the weight penalty if it keeps the middle pedal up off the floor."
That is not a function of the drums, you were over-taxing the braking system's ability to eliminate heat. Brakes work by turning kinetic energy into heat. The trick is being able to vent the heat away as quickly as possible so that your brakes can do their job. If you heat soak your brakes they do not stop the car so much. Brake cooling, primarily in the front, and better fluid would solve that problem.
Under braking, particularly hard braking, the rear brakes are barely involved in the process. If you car only has 40% of its weight over the rear wheels at rest, weight transfer under braking lowers that amount to a much lower percentage. Your front brakes are the ones carrying the load, get the fluid hot and your get a lower middle pedal.
I was search the internet and a place called scare bird in Albuquerque NM claims to have disk brake conversion brackets for our cars. Never heard of these before and I question it because it lists the 2nd gen with our cars.
Victor
86 K24 Powered CRX SI (SMF Solo2, HPDE-4 NASA & TA-A Time Attack
85 CRX DX totally original
07 Harley FXST Softail
2021 Tacoma Tow/Daily
"Ill gladly take the weight penalty if it keeps the middle pedal up off the floor."
That is not a function of the drums, you were over-taxing the braking system's ability to eliminate heat. Brakes work by turning kinetic energy into heat. The trick is being able to vent the heat away as quickly as possible so that your brakes can do their job. If you heat soak your brakes they do not stop the car so much. Brake cooling, primarily in the front, and better fluid would solve that problem.
Under braking, particularly hard braking, the rear brakes are barely involved in the process. If you car only has 40% of its weight over the rear wheels at rest, weight transfer under braking lowers that amount to a much lower percentage. Your front brakes are the ones carrying the load, get the fluid hot and your get a lower middle pedal.
It is totally a function of the drums if the drums are not capable of handling the heat generated by the braking load. I would never run aluminum drums on a club racing car as they are designed for weight reduction not racing. That’s the primary reason my car had Integra brakes on the front - it had been a club racing car and they have better heat tolerance.
Well, in the Triumph (sports car) world, Alfin brand brake drums were a factory option, for racing. More for improved cooling, than for weight. Enthusiasts covet them (perhaps for the look), and used to search for Datsun 240Z drums to machine to fit the Triumph rear hubs. https://mossmotors.c...zUaAvDZEALw_wcB
Keith A. Edwards
Suffolk, VA
1.75 1st gen. CRXs
former ECHC H5 Champion
Done meany of a track day events and time attack events with my aluminum drum setup and never had any issues. I run civic 10in front brake conversion on the front. I run Hawk race pads with stock pads in the rear. Advantage of the disk brake is the ease of changing pads at the track or just general service.
Victor
86 K24 Powered CRX SI (SMF Solo2, HPDE-4 NASA & TA-A Time Attack
85 CRX DX totally original
07 Harley FXST Softail
2021 Tacoma Tow/Daily
Edited by Andy69, 15 March 2020 - 07:25 AM.