all i hear is crickets. just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction for wiring this beast. i take it that it can't be far off of the swap into an 88-91 Si. if i need to, i guess i can figure it out on my own. but i thought i'd ask first anyways. thanks guys.
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Wiring For A B16a Obd O In An Si.
Started by E-AT_me, Sep 01 2007 10:52 PM
14 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 01 September 2007 - 10:52 PM
#2
Posted 01 September 2007 - 11:06 PM
never mind, i found the two articles in the WIKI post. just wondering if anyone else had any good info to add. thanks again. also, nothing is really mentioned about converting over the VSS.
1986 Civic Si; b16a is in.. just gotta get it running..
longest swap ever.....
longest swap ever.....
#3
Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:34 AM
I have no idea on OBD 0 wiring. Just OBD 2
I'm sure you know the options/need of the VSS (so this is more for others that read your post): Add the Integra or HF VSS unit to the Civic cluster or swap the cluster for a VSS driven one and put a tranny mounted VSS sender. I think the only way to get around the VSS need is a custom tune (maybe) or an aftermarket ECU. I know there was a thread with a write up for adding the VSS to the Civic cluster, but I can't find it right now, found about 10 for the CRX cluster though. I think there was one about swapping the 1G Integra cluster in to the hatch too. I happen to have an 87 Integra cluster with VSS, still have the car here if I needed to pull the plugs for the cluster too.
Are you tring to sneak a "big mod" in before the 22nd?
I'm sure you know the options/need of the VSS (so this is more for others that read your post): Add the Integra or HF VSS unit to the Civic cluster or swap the cluster for a VSS driven one and put a tranny mounted VSS sender. I think the only way to get around the VSS need is a custom tune (maybe) or an aftermarket ECU. I know there was a thread with a write up for adding the VSS to the Civic cluster, but I can't find it right now, found about 10 for the CRX cluster though. I think there was one about swapping the 1G Integra cluster in to the hatch too. I happen to have an 87 Integra cluster with VSS, still have the car here if I needed to pull the plugs for the cluster too.
Are you tring to sneak a "big mod" in before the 22nd?
Screech
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16 Ford RS (2.3l, DS)
84 Civic 2000S (B20Z2 2.0l, SMF)
#4
Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:06 AM
i sent my harness off to rywire.com and they hooked it up for me for around 100$ i think
#5
Posted 02 September 2007 - 04:49 PM
Wich ECU you have to use then, the one that came with the B16 engine, or the normal (tuned?) ecu?
#6
Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:05 PM
i have the normal b16a i believe a PR3.
screech: no way could i get it running in time for the 22...
or could i?
btw, rywire is 225. and i don't think i'm gonna pay that.
screech: no way could i get it running in time for the 22...
or could i?
btw, rywire is 225. and i don't think i'm gonna pay that.
Edited by E-AT_me, 02 September 2007 - 08:07 PM.
1986 Civic Si; b16a is in.. just gotta get it running..
longest swap ever.....
longest swap ever.....
#7
Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:56 PM
QUOTE (Screech @ Sep 2 2007, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think there was one about swapping the 1G Integra cluster in to the hatch too.
Here is the teg cluster modified 87 teg cluster 84-87 civic dash
#8
Posted 03 September 2007 - 09:03 PM
thanks, but i want to use the stock civic cluster with the HF parts. i'll figure it out.
1986 Civic Si; b16a is in.. just gotta get it running..
longest swap ever.....
longest swap ever.....
#9
Posted 04 September 2007 - 08:59 AM
wow that sucks, i know i paid a little over 100 for it. no more than 120.
QUOTE (E-AT_me @ Sep 2 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i have the normal b16a i believe a PR3.
screech: no way could i get it running in time for the 22...
or could i?
btw, rywire is 225. and i don't think i'm gonna pay that.
screech: no way could i get it running in time for the 22...
or could i?
btw, rywire is 225. and i don't think i'm gonna pay that.
#10
Posted 05 September 2007 - 11:56 AM
#11
Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:52 PM
thanks screech. that's exactly what i needed.
1986 Civic Si; b16a is in.. just gotta get it running..
longest swap ever.....
longest swap ever.....
#12
Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:31 PM
I just wish I still had the Civic's cluster so I could test that with the Integra's VSS gauge.
#13
Posted 24 September 2007 - 09:36 PM
I have the same question about the VSS on the 3g civic but I found this interesting article that explain very well how can you make your 3g civic cluster VSS capable, let me know if this help or already have saw it
http://rallybeater.c...r-gaugevss.html
http://rallybeater.c...r-gaugevss.html
QUOTE (E-AT_me @ Sep 2 2007, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
never mind, i found the two articles in the WIKI post. just wondering if anyone else had any good info to add. thanks again. also, nothing is really mentioned about converting over the VSS.
#14
Posted 25 September 2007 - 03:42 AM
The VSS situation is pretty eazy once you understand it. That guys article above lines it out pretty good.
Basicly you need your stock 84-87 Cluster, and the speedo unit from a 86-89 Teg, 84-87 HF, or 88-91 Cable Driven Speedo. There is a small "VSS Pulser" that is held on with 2 screws to the back of the speedo housing. You simply transfer it to your 84-87 Speedo, cut a hole in the back of the 84-87 Cluster so it clears, and using 2 screws and wires, ground one(doesnt mater) and run the other to the ECU. Done.
All the Cable Driven Clusters are basicly the same, but Pre-OBD ECU's didnt need a VSS signal so it wasnt added. The HF had it souly for the Upshift indicator.
Basicly you need your stock 84-87 Cluster, and the speedo unit from a 86-89 Teg, 84-87 HF, or 88-91 Cable Driven Speedo. There is a small "VSS Pulser" that is held on with 2 screws to the back of the speedo housing. You simply transfer it to your 84-87 Speedo, cut a hole in the back of the 84-87 Cluster so it clears, and using 2 screws and wires, ground one(doesnt mater) and run the other to the ECU. Done.
All the Cable Driven Clusters are basicly the same, but Pre-OBD ECU's didnt need a VSS signal so it wasnt added. The HF had it souly for the Upshift indicator.
#15
Posted 25 September 2007 - 07:02 AM
yeah, i took care of it. thanks guys.
1986 Civic Si; b16a is in.. just gotta get it running..
longest swap ever.....
longest swap ever.....