Red Pepper Racing

i get that it keeps everything more stable, and center to some extent, but i was wondering if there was any other ideas on accompishing this? i have a welder, and the possibilities are endless really, but rather than fool with makeing an adjustable, has anyone else gotten really crestive to accomplish the the same results of a panhard that doesnt cause the rear end to go off to one side when lowered? pics if possible.... idk it might sound stupid, but just checking

I`v seen pictures of different setups that people have made to get away from the panhard bar, but its been awhile, did you try searching?
the search on RPR sort of sucks, so I search through google.....just found this
http://www.redpepper...showtopic=30175

I hope this helps?

Christopher

Jay did a Mumford as well:
http://www.redpepper...e...&hl=mumford

you guys know everything! im gonna look up the watts link.... has anybody calculated dimensions for a good mumford?

i think i would like to go with that, but my welding skills are far from it right now.... i dont want it to look like crap

You should do it anyway! Your welding will never get better unless you put the time in. Welding is not a spectator sport. Use/Do it or lose it!

Google "Mumford Link" and you will find some cool sites that help you figure out what will work for you. I personally think what Jay did is super cool. It's different! And it works.

Jay will probably chime in and help out with resources.

David

Yep, and when I tried to yesterday everyone knows why I couldn't. so I went back outside to work on some stuff. Then again this AM, same thing, so I went back out into the garage. Then again after lunch...so I watched Lewis Hamilton drive like his daddy does!

FWIW...Congrats to Robert Kubica AND the BMW team!

Anyway, now that it's back up, it's late and I'm tired. I'll try to add my .02 tomorrow.

The hard part is finding spots to tie the Mumford/Watt link to the body sheet metal. Some reinforcing will be needed, I would think.

The panhard bar is a cheap/easy solution to the problem, the Mumford/Watt link is obviously more complicated. Making your own adjustable panhard bar is easy enough to make out of readily available parts from a good racing supply house (I like Pegasus Racing as they are supporters of this site).

Scott

well, i think the mumford is tto much for me to do, i dont autox, i just drag, and i want something a lil better on the streets.... ive looked at a couple watts on fords, and i think i can do it up pretty light..... so im gonna go to the junkyard and cut one out (for reference) and try to make one specifically for my rex... they dont seem too bad, and i think it will be an improvement to the panhard

Sorry to be such a nag about this, but the minor difference between the Watts link is it's only a little easier to do than the Mumford. The major difference is the Mumford lets you place your roll center anywhere you want! You could even put it below ground if you wanted to.

But really, if you are mostly dragging, I would just use a panhard bar. The extra weight and complexity of the Watts will gain you nothing.

David

^ ^ ^ Yup! That's what I was thinking too. Especially if you're primarily using it for street/strip. Also, as Scott mentioned, you will need to figure a way to connect adequate bracing for the links to work properly.

Jay

^^ +2 ^^

I would suspect you could make/find a very light chrome-moly panhard rod that will be so much lighter and less complex than either a Watts link or a Mumford device, and still be a substantial improvement over the stock PHB, especially if this only being used for drag racing.

K.I.S.S.

A Watts link would personally be my last choice since it is very heavy in terms of unsprung weight.

^+3^

and if you are worried about it being centered when you adjust the hight you could simply put a turn buckle or some other simple adjustment device in the middle of you're panhard bar

FWIW, I didn't notice the car handle differently around left turns compared to right turns when I took my car to the track. It's lowered and I still use the stock panhard bar. I can't tell that the axle is offset, though I'm sure it is.

There is a guy on ebay selling adjustable panhard bars. I bought one off of him cause my left side tires was raming into the fender when I lowered the car. I installed it, it fit perfect and works better than I could have ever imagined. Look up item number 230252843832. The auction has already ended, but I'm sure he has more. Just contact him and ask him if you could buy one.

Actually, now that I think of it, I got all his information when he mailed me the bar.
email me if you want his contact info

Hope this helps.
Edited by onefasthondacrx, 17 June 2008 - 06:47 PM.

AKA firstgencrx on this site, I believe. Nice looking adjustable panhard bars he's making!

Just a thought, but with all the e-mail address trolling and spam nowadays (not by rpr members, of course), you may want to remove David's personal info from your post.