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someone is trying to sell me a bare d16a1 port and polished head for about $250. it still has its valve guides in there, but other than that, completely bare. if i buy this, would it be ok for me to use the cam caps that i have on my motor now, or is it risky? cam caps are very important i know, so if i put my used ones on this head i don't want anything to break....
should i get this, or not? he doesn't have any of the stuff left because he said that the head has been sitting in a case for about 7 years.
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Question About P&p Head
Started by staticchmbr, Oct 19 2005 02:24 PM
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:24 PM
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:28 PM
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also, he doesn't know what year this is from..so if it turns out to be an 86-87 head, will i be able to fit my 88-89 distributor and crank sensor onto it?
ill see if he can find out for sure.
ill see if he can find out for sure.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:32 PM
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There's a thread somewhere here about fitting a 88-89 distributor to an 86-87 head.
You should be able to use any A1 cam caps - just plastigauge to verify the clearances are within spec. Any machine shop should be able to line hone the bores if they are out (which is unlikely).
$250 is a decent deal if the port job didn't ruin the head. Post good pictures of the ports here, there are a few members that know what they are looking at.
You should be able to use any A1 cam caps - just plastigauge to verify the clearances are within spec. Any machine shop should be able to line hone the bores if they are out (which is unlikely).
$250 is a decent deal if the port job didn't ruin the head. Post good pictures of the ports here, there are a few members that know what they are looking at.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:40 PM
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:53 PM
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- Leadfoot
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FOCUS? I can't see diddle in those pictures...
Kirk
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (gtpilot @ Oct 19 2005, 02:53 PM)
sorry, he sent them to me.. i don't have any others
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 03:51 PM
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Dang...then I don't think that you are going to be able to tell musch about the porting job - you need really clear, really detailed pictures of the ports.
Kirk
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 09:13 PM
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:48 AM
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Why do you want to buy that head? Is there something wrong with yours?
If you ask me it's too much money for a stripped head w/ no cam caps, valves or springs. Even if you buy this head and use your own parts, you stil have to pay to have the caps line honed and the valve seats/faces recut. To run a 88-89 dizzy on an 86-87 head, you have to use the dizzy end cam cap off of an 88-89 head, and then it is only going to hold it w/ one bolt.
I think for the money you are looking at to use this head you could just re-work yours. I ported my head myself and it looks just like that one, and had the head re-worked for $200.
If you ask me it's too much money for a stripped head w/ no cam caps, valves or springs. Even if you buy this head and use your own parts, you stil have to pay to have the caps line honed and the valve seats/faces recut. To run a 88-89 dizzy on an 86-87 head, you have to use the dizzy end cam cap off of an 88-89 head, and then it is only going to hold it w/ one bolt.
I think for the money you are looking at to use this head you could just re-work yours. I ported my head myself and it looks just like that one, and had the head re-worked for $200.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 09:34 AM
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here is what the guy said about the head:
-PRESSURE TESTED GOOD
-FRESHLY PORTED AND POLISHED
-FRESH HIGH PERFORMANCE 3 ANGLE VALVE JOB W/ TOP RELIEF CUT
-FRESHLY RESURFACED
-VALVE GUIDES ARE IN GOOD CONDITION
-BARE HEAD!!!!! DOES NOT COME WITH VALVES, SPRINGS, RETAINERS, KEEPERS, SPRING SHIMS, VALVE STEM SEALS, CAMS, ROCKERS, OR CAM CAPS!!!!!!!!! (SEE PICTURES)
id like to port my own head, but i don't want to mess anything up. the reason i wanted to buy this was because the work was already done. im looking to either port and polish my head, or get an already p&p'd head.
i bought reground turbo cams, have a bored out intake manifold, a bigger TB, TB spacer (for a "bigger plenum effect") and a turbo on my car. i have 2 heads..
- one was on my car and when i spun a bearing, metal bearing chunks got circulated through my motor/head.
- i bought a second motor from someone, and i can use the head. i want to get the valve seals replaced anyways. seeing that i have to strip the head anyways, i might as well put the new valve seals in the p&p head, and then put all of my other heads internals into there.
is this a dumb idea?
also, i was looking up how to install the distributor..and its not that hard. like it was stated above, all i have to do is put the 88-89 cam cap on. it will attach with one bolt.
-PRESSURE TESTED GOOD
-FRESHLY PORTED AND POLISHED
-FRESH HIGH PERFORMANCE 3 ANGLE VALVE JOB W/ TOP RELIEF CUT
-FRESHLY RESURFACED
-VALVE GUIDES ARE IN GOOD CONDITION
-BARE HEAD!!!!! DOES NOT COME WITH VALVES, SPRINGS, RETAINERS, KEEPERS, SPRING SHIMS, VALVE STEM SEALS, CAMS, ROCKERS, OR CAM CAPS!!!!!!!!! (SEE PICTURES)
id like to port my own head, but i don't want to mess anything up. the reason i wanted to buy this was because the work was already done. im looking to either port and polish my head, or get an already p&p'd head.
i bought reground turbo cams, have a bored out intake manifold, a bigger TB, TB spacer (for a "bigger plenum effect") and a turbo on my car. i have 2 heads..
- one was on my car and when i spun a bearing, metal bearing chunks got circulated through my motor/head.
- i bought a second motor from someone, and i can use the head. i want to get the valve seals replaced anyways. seeing that i have to strip the head anyways, i might as well put the new valve seals in the p&p head, and then put all of my other heads internals into there.
is this a dumb idea?
also, i was looking up how to install the distributor..and its not that hard. like it was stated above, all i have to do is put the 88-89 cam cap on. it will attach with one bolt.
87 crx si (in pieces)
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 02:01 PM
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ok, here is a pic of the dizzy side..anyone know what year its from??
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:07 PM
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (sspcivic31 @ Oct 21 2005, 02:07 AM)
thats an 86-87 vac advance head
I second that motion!
http://www.muller.ne...vs89/index.html
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:41 PM
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i guess its just better that i send my own head out to get p&p'd. i just have to find a place that won't charge me an arm and a leg... all i want is a basic port/polish job (maybe gasket match size), new valve seals, and everything cleaned up (combustion chamber, etc). who knows..depending on the price, i might want it all done up!!
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (staticchmbr @ Oct 23 2005, 08:41 PM)
i guess its just better that i send my own head out to get p&p'd. i just have to find a place that won't charge me an arm and a leg... all i want is a basic port/polish job (maybe gasket match size), new valve seals, and everything cleaned up (combustion chamber, etc). who knows..depending on the price, i might want it all done up!!
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