okay so i recently changed my timing belt an all is well..i go to start it an it stays on for a bit using starting fluid..can it be the pump in the tank?? or not enough gas in it?..it marks jus above the empty line..anyone whos delt wit this before please help! i dnt want to go changing unecessary parts...
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Its Not Spark..or Mechanical..fuel?
Started by tkmdxhatch, Mar 11 2012 04:17 PM
10 replies to this topic
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:17 PM
#2
Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:02 PM
QUOTE (tkmdxhatch @ Mar 11 2012, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
okay so i recently changed my timing belt an all is well..i go to start it an it stays on for a bit using starting fluid..can it be the pump in the tank?? or not enough gas in it?..it marks jus above the empty line..anyone whos delt wit this before please help! i dnt want to go changing unecessary parts...
First go buy a couple gallons of fuel, and put it in. Possible the sending unit or/and gauge is faulty.
Then, place a rag under the carb to absorb spillage, take the fuel line off the carburetor and put it into a bottle, crank the engine a few times and see if fuel came out.
Let us know how it goes. This will let us know if at least it's pumping gas, we can move on from there.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:04 PM
If your civic is a dx like your profile says, the fuel pump is mechanical and not in the tank. It's before the dizzy beside the head. Just so you know. Sorry to say I don't have any other good advice. Try putting some more fuel in.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:17 PM
oh yeah i know where the pump is i changed it not to long ago but for some reason i thought it mite have one in the tank also...i will go get some gas an try wat you said! ill let yu guys know wat happens...brb.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:43 PM
QUOTE (EuphoricBlue @ Mar 11 2012, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First go buy a couple gallons of fuel, and put it in. Possible the sending unit or/and gauge is faulty.
Then, place a rag under the carb to absorb spillage, take the fuel line off the carburetor and put it into a bottle, crank the engine a few times and see if fuel came out.
Let us know how it goes. This will let us know if at least it's pumping gas, we can move on from there.
Then, place a rag under the carb to absorb spillage, take the fuel line off the carburetor and put it into a bottle, crank the engine a few times and see if fuel came out.
Let us know how it goes. This will let us know if at least it's pumping gas, we can move on from there.
okay im back.. i went an put 2 gallons in it, disconnected the fuel line to the carb an it did pump gas! so wat do you guys think it is? i did get it to start earlier but i had to hold the gas pedal all the way down for it to stay on, as soon as i let go it shuts off..
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:13 PM
QUOTE (tkmdxhatch @ Mar 11 2012, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
okay im back.. i went an put 2 gallons in it, disconnected the fuel line to the carb an it did pump gas! so wat do you guys think it is? i did get it to start earlier but i had to hold the gas pedal all the way down for it to stay on, as soon as i let go it shuts off..
When you installed the timing belt, did you turn the engine 2 full revolutions by hand and re-check the timing? These belts are horrible for being a tooth off. If all you did was change the belt, than it stands to reason the cam timing is off.
Or you have one heck of a vacuum leak somewhere.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:26 PM
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:25 AM
QUOTE (EuphoricBlue @ Mar 12 2012, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When you installed the timing belt, did you turn the engine 2 full revolutions by hand and re-check the timing? These belts are horrible for being a tooth off. If all you did was change the belt, than it stands to reason the cam timing is off.
Or you have one heck of a vacuum leak somewhere.
Or you have one heck of a vacuum leak somewhere.
yea I did but the crank pulley mark didn't line up exactly its pretty close tho, but I'm sure its off by a couple teeth.. ill recheck and try to fix it. thanks guys.
#9
Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:38 AM
Not to hijack your thread, but i myself am fairly new @ adjusting the timing, i believe my engine isnt set correctly, nor did i know to turn it 2 full turns & recheck, it fires and runs, doesnt run bad, just doesnt pickup as fast as the 235k mile engine i had in the CRX and doesnt sound the same.. What do you guys suggest as to getting the Timing DEAD on, cause if i line it up and tighten the belt down, it moves over just a bit and i suspect its causing less power
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I drive with a Lead-foot for Two Reasons--> 1. i like to be out front of the idiots that dont know how to drive 2. i like to the hear the sound of my engine..
#10
Posted 22 March 2012 - 11:48 PM
Getting the timing belt dead on can be tricky, especially without air tools.
First, pull all the spark plugs. This will allow you to more easily rotate the crank pulley. You can sling the belt around the pulley and holding both sides tight, gently pull on the left or right side to rotate the crank. Use only your hands for leverage, a little effort will move the crank a lot and getting it dead on can be tedious. There is a line on the crank pulley that lines up with an arrow on the oil pump housing at the 1 o'clock position. Wipe away some dirt and you should be able to see it and the line on the crank pulley behind the belt alignment washer.
Once you've got the crank at TDC you can put the belt on the other pulleys. Follow this order:
Crank pulley
Tensioner
Water Pump
Camshaft
Remember this simple trick to get it right every time:
Put the belt on the three lower pulleys and holding it tight away from the bottom of the motor, slip the belt on from left to right on the camshaft pulley, working in a clockwise direction.
The idea is to keep the left side of the belt taught against the crank and allow the tensioner to take up the slack in the right side.
Rotate the crankshaft counter clockwise three cam pulley teeth to tension the belt, and tighten the tensioner. Rotate the crankshaft two revolutions counter clockwise and re-check your timing marks, including the UP mark on the camshaft pulley.
Cheers,
Mark
First, pull all the spark plugs. This will allow you to more easily rotate the crank pulley. You can sling the belt around the pulley and holding both sides tight, gently pull on the left or right side to rotate the crank. Use only your hands for leverage, a little effort will move the crank a lot and getting it dead on can be tedious. There is a line on the crank pulley that lines up with an arrow on the oil pump housing at the 1 o'clock position. Wipe away some dirt and you should be able to see it and the line on the crank pulley behind the belt alignment washer.
Once you've got the crank at TDC you can put the belt on the other pulleys. Follow this order:
Crank pulley
Tensioner
Water Pump
Camshaft
Remember this simple trick to get it right every time:
Put the belt on the three lower pulleys and holding it tight away from the bottom of the motor, slip the belt on from left to right on the camshaft pulley, working in a clockwise direction.
The idea is to keep the left side of the belt taught against the crank and allow the tensioner to take up the slack in the right side.
Rotate the crankshaft counter clockwise three cam pulley teeth to tension the belt, and tighten the tensioner. Rotate the crankshaft two revolutions counter clockwise and re-check your timing marks, including the UP mark on the camshaft pulley.
Cheers,
Mark
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 12:04 AM
Note, some pulleys do not have an "UP" mark. This isn't critical on our engines since it's SOHC and everything is keyed, just make sure the two lines line up with the head.including the UP mark on the camshaft pulley.