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Installing A Weber 32/36 Dgev On A 87 Hond...

jameson's Photo jameson 13 Jul 2009

great post will do doing something like this soon, but the duel carb:)
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BuffetLife's Photo BuffetLife 30 Oct 2009

This might be my route pretty soon! I love forums, you learn something new everyday!
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badpenny's Photo badpenny 30 Oct 2009

Going that route with my dads crx later this month. I hope to do this with my civic here soon as well, I also hope to do this with my wagovan as well.
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BuffetLife's Photo BuffetLife 08 Nov 2009

Any updates on the set up? Is she running good, or is there a lot of tweaking and adjusting?
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RFL85CRXSI's Photo RFL85CRXSI 12 Dec 2009

To be honest with you, I was getting alot better performance with a modified stock carburator compared to my current DGEV. BUT I was tired of having to rebuild the kehien due to leaking gaskets/seals... Ive been though one fire, and thats more than enough for me!
BTW, 2bbl refers to the amount of barrels a carburator has. In the US, we technicaly have a three barrel carburator (primary, secondary and CVCC)
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BuffetLife's Photo BuffetLife 21 Dec 2009

I think am going to shoot for rebuilding my carburetor this coming spring, before doing a swap.

Does our stock carb have a part number outside of Honda for part sourcing and rebuilding? Kehein (sorry if mispelled) is the brand I take it, but it has to be a perticular series, no?
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old skooler hatch's Photo old skooler hatch 04 Sep 2010

QUOTE (BuffetLife @ Dec 21 2009, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think am going to shoot for rebuilding my carburetor this coming spring, before doing a swap.

Does our stock carb have a part number outside of Honda for part sourcing and rebuilding? Kehein (sorry if mispelled) is the brand I take it, but it has to be a perticular series, no?


yea they do its up by the accel pump honda made i think like 16 diff carbs but nothin changed on them execpt for like the small passage ways for the vaccume and all that but as long as you look for your cars gen you will get the right one and btw for all readers i have gotten i think 280-320 miles devaced and stock carb with an 8 gallon tank which is about 45+ mpg i think but i ordered the weber carb because all of the vaccume cap is supposed to make your car run better but when i got my car it RAN LIKE CRAP haha o and another tip clean out your cat its real easy to do and very worth it mine was way plugged it was kind of like sucking a golf ball through a straw haha but once i did my engine spun up way quicker
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civic1500s's Photo civic1500s 05 Nov 2010

QUOTE (old skooler hatch @ Sep 4 2010, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea they do its up by the accel pump honda made i think like 16 diff carbs but nothin changed on them execpt for like the small passage ways for the vaccume and all that but as long as you look for your cars gen you will get the right one and btw for all readers i have gotten i think 280-320 miles devaced and stock carb with an 8 gallon tank which is about 45+ mpg i think but i ordered the weber carb because all of the vaccume cap is supposed to make your car run better but when i got my car it RAN LIKE CRAP haha o and another tip clean out your cat its real easy to do and very worth it mine was way plugged it was kind of like sucking a golf ball through a straw haha but once i did my engine spun up way quicker


hi guys i buy my weber to my civic 1500s,
The vacuum advance port is the only thing that I am still wonder if I hooked up right, I hooked it up to the distributor vacuum port (the bottom one, and put a cap on the top)

is this correct or would have to do some modification?
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badpenny's Photo badpenny 05 Nov 2010

QUOTE (civic1500s @ Nov 5 2010, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi guys i buy my weber to my civic 1500s,
The vacuum advance port is the only thing that I am still wonder if I hooked up right, I hooked it up to the distributor vacuum port (the bottom one, and put a cap on the top)

is this correct or would have to do some modification?


I believe you don't have to cap it.
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PuddleSkipper's Photo PuddleSkipper 01 Dec 2010

Hi, I was wondering if it makes a difference which way you install the carb. Ydennek, it would also help if the pics for this thread were reposted because they are not showing up anymore. I did look at the youtube video and ydennek installed it just like I did, with the throttle linkage to the Driver's Side of the Car. I figured this would only put one sharp bend in my throttle cable where mounting the throttle linkage to the Passenger's Side (like the instructions say to do) would put two sharp bends in the cable. My question is on these Weber carbs, one barrel is the primary and the other is secondary, does it make a difference on how far the primary barrel is from the head? I am guessing that when the carb is mounted correctly the primary barrel is probably the hole that is farthest away from the cylinder head and that when it is mounted like ydennek (and me) mounted it is probably running rich? Also ydennek used RTV when the directions said specifically not to in bold print. I used moly grease on the paper gaskets that came with it because of the bold print and was worried I would screw something up. Why would they say not to use RTV?
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PuddleSkipper's Photo PuddleSkipper 03 Dec 2010

I have a few more questions: Because the original carb was tied in to the emissions control boxes, if the O2 sensor sensed that the carb was running too lean or too rich it would regulate the carb's fuel mixture via the opening and closing of the many solenoids in the emissions control boxes? And therefore because the Weber is running on a devac'd car the O2 sensor is nothing more than a glorified pipe plug? If this is the case what jobs do the computer still perform? Is the choke tied in or regulated by the computer at all? Also the idle jet solenoid for the Weber 32/36, does this perform the same function as the 84-87 honda idle cut off solenoid? I saw that it only has one male spade terminal to it and was thinking that if I got one I would solder an additional male spade terminal to the metal housing of the solenoid so that I could cut off the existing wires from the honda idle cut off solenoid of my stock carb and wire it up, this MIGHT enable the computer to regulate it's function just like the original carb.
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Mark L's Photo Mark L 03 Dec 2010

The CRX DX does not have a computer or a O2 Sensor.

Installing a Weber 32/36 on a CVCC is a compromise.

You need to have the primary barrel over the CVCC port to help the spark plugs get a proper mixture. That means the Primary should be closest to the engine.

It is NOT a good idea to use RTV when mounting a carb. It gets everywhere and can block up passages.

The carb and manifold surfaces will seal fine with a standard gasket.

Mark
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PuddleSkipper's Photo PuddleSkipper 05 Dec 2010

QUOTE (Mark L @ Dec 3 2010, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The CRX DX does not have a computer or a O2 Sensor.

Installing a Weber 32/36 on a CVCC is a compromise.

You need to have the primary barrel over the CVCC port to help the spark plugs get a proper mixture. That means the Primary should be closest to the engine.

It is NOT a good idea to use RTV when mounting a carb. It gets everywhere and can block up passages.

The carb and manifold surfaces will seal fine with a standard gasket.

Mark

According to the exploded view of the 32/36, mounting the carb with the linkage on the Driver's side puts the Primary Barrel closest to the engine, so despite the directions then, both Ydennek and I mounted our carbs in the right position. Also what do you mean that the CRX DX does not have a computer or an O2 sensor, like it was unplugged or taken out, or it simply never had one to begin with. The car I have this carb installed on is an 84 Civic 1500 S.
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Mark L's Photo Mark L 05 Dec 2010

QUOTE (PuddleSkipper @ Dec 5 2010, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to the exploded view of the 32/36, mounting the carb with the linkage on the Driver's side puts the Primary Barrel closest to the engine, so despite the directions then, both Ydennek and I mounted our carbs in the right position. Also what do you mean that the CRX DX does not have a computer or an O2 sensor, like it was unplugged or taken out, or it simply never had one to begin with. The car I have this carb installed on is an 84 Civic 1500 S.


My Carb has the linkage on the passenger's side, and the linkage pivots forward to open the throttle plates.
the primary barrel is farest from the engine.


Wow!
I was wrong about the primary and CVCC ports. I must of been thinking of another installation.
I do believe the Primary Barrel is farest from the engine.



The CVCC port is in the middle and that is why the adapters have the cutout.



You are starting with a US Civic with a carburetor ?

My Current setup is a SI engine. I am using a Canadian intake manifold with a custom adapter for the Weber.
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PuddleSkipper's Photo PuddleSkipper 09 Dec 2010

What about the computer though? and yes my car is the standard 84-87 US model with the K726 Weber kit on it. I was looking at the bottom of the intake manifold when I had it off and was cleaning it and noticed the way the intake runners are routed on this particular manifold I don't think it matters which way the carb is mounted. I do have pics but for some reason have never been able to post them.
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