civic80vtec

Ya they are stickers from five star race car body's
i don't drive this on the street

im just having a prob with the injectors i had a bad set. so i got new ones any ITB is difficult in tuning or idle no mater what. the injectors on some itb's are placed either or'' what ever the manufacture set for best on there product on there specs.

idle difficulty:: with out hondata or chrome or any others the itb's just wont run there best or run at all. being you can't use Eacv or Iac with ITB's the stock ecu will run codes and run like crap or wont idle at all.

once you have the itb's and all you need as far as a engine management set up. head to dyno
same with turbo motors still have to have engine management and dyno
all the same.. so worth on this set up i think is the same crap for both turbo's and ITB's nothing but $$$$$$$$$$$
it just maters on what people like.


the advantage i think is the throttle responds its very quick and RPM is higher no prob off the line, and power band

well now you can see that motor is going into the cvcc lol more pics soon..

as you can see the ITB's its real close to the fire wall bout less than an 1" but if you look close its cut open where the itbs go. air goes into scoop ,then into reservoir to take out pressure and turbulence then 90 into itbs
with out this its to close to fire wall and has no flow

i know its not pretty wires need tucked and parts still need put on and cleaned but heres a pic of the motor in the civic at this time it hasn't started yet

pics::::

thanx for the awesome info

set the timing to stock, 16deg. then switch the map setting to alpha-n and learn from there. you will have throttle angle columns instead of vacuum columns- with no intake plenum in the manifold, you wont have to worry about varying vacuum numbers. its a little hard to explain, but you want to run directly down a column rather than have the target bouncing back and forth between columns. one thing to picture is that once you crack the throttle 5%, the map sensor will see just about zero vacuum, so all of the columns in between full vacuum and zero vacuum will be useless and irratic. another trick i have learned from church is to keep the tps reading at 1% when the throttle is completely closed. this makes the ecu think theres some load and will help out a lot with idle and driveability. just adjust the tps or play with the calibration in smanager to achieve this.