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Hi all. I havn't been on for a very very long time... so sad.

Anyway, I have a 1985 EW2 powered civic 3-door.
Great peice of kit.

I am looking at putting in the D15B4 from the 1993 civic.
This is a twin carby engine.

I understand that the 93 has double wishbone front and (in some cases) a solid rear axle. It's the front I'm interested in.

I will be swapping in a twin carby D15, since I like carby's, despite the superiority of the PGM-FI and vTech motors.

What I want to know is, can the 93 civic kframe be bolted into 85 chassis?
This would achieve a number of results if it were possible...
A faster swap, less fabrication, higher viability etc ...
not to mention that tasty double wishbone front end and better brakes.

Please bear in mind that this is an Australian proposition, although I do believe that the civic was as global in 85 and 93 as it is today.

Also, as a side note and to save space and time, I'd like to know of any good quality intake manifold to suit twin downdraught webers, any people who make cams for these motors (I only know of vTech cams) and any good 4-1 long runner exhausts.

Thanks doods!

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QUOTE (yakkmeister @ Apr 26 2006, 05:11 AM)
Also, as a side note and to save space and time, I'd like to know of any good quality intake manifold to suit twin downdraught webers, any people who make cams for these motors (I only know of vTech cams) and any good 4-1 long runner exhausts.

Thanks doods!


Twin downdraft Webers? Good luck finding a manifold for that. Not many people have them on a Honda.

Your best bet would be to use the manifold for a Fiat X1/9 and twin Weber DCNFs and modify it to fit the Honda motor. It really wouldn't be so hard to do. But even the Fiat manifold is getting rare these days.

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Yup sub frame bolts right on after some insane r&d, cutting, machining, welding, bolting, swearing, drinking, smoking, and finally....... hammering. Get 'er done and take some pics.
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QUOTE (yakkmeister @ Apr 26 2006, 05:11 AM)
Hi all. I havn't been on for a very very long time... so sad.

Anyway, I have a 1985 EW2 powered civic 3-door.
Great peice of kit.

I am looking at putting in the D15B4 from the 1993 civic.
This is a twin carby engine.

I understand that the 93 has double wishbone front and (in some cases) a solid rear axle. It's the front I'm interested in.

I will be swapping in a twin carby D15, since I like carby's, despite the superiority of the PGM-FI and vTech motors.

What I want to know is, can the 93 civic kframe be bolted into 85 chassis?
This would achieve a number of results if it were possible...
A faster swap, less fabrication, higher viability etc ...
not to mention that tasty double wishbone front end and better brakes.

Please bear in mind that this is an Australian proposition, although I do believe that the civic was as global in 85 and 93 as it is today.

Also, as a side note and to save space and time, I'd like to know of any good quality intake manifold to suit twin downdraught webers, any people who make cams for these motors (I only know of vTech cams) and any good 4-1 long runner exhausts.

Thanks doods!


Um not to be a smart ass here but a "KFRAME"????
dont you mean a SUB FRAME???,a BOX shaped unit as opposed to the dreaded chrysler K Shaped..KFRAME
a K FRAME is a OLLLLLLLLD Chrysler part that used to used on DUSTERS CHARGERS,CHALLENGERS,AND YES,FURY'S AND MY OL' CORONET AND OTHER B Bodies,and they are/were also a torsen bar front suspension....but hanging a slant six 225...versus a EIGHT 318,340,360,383,400,440,426 was almost IMPOSSIBLE without changing out the KFRAME.
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QUOTE (JDC420 @ Apr 26 2006, 10:41 AM)
Yup sub frame bolts right on after some insane r&d, cutting, machining, welding, bolting, swearing, drinking, smoking, and finally....... hammering.  Get 'er done and take some pics.



i got a question to add to this topic i recently snapped my sub frame in two places and i was wondering.... after friday when it goes into the shop to get fabed back together will i not be able to do auto cross and also what could i do to make it stronger......



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QUOTE (nature223 @ Apr 27 2006, 01:52 AM)
Um not to be a smart ass here but a "KFRAME"????
dont you mean a SUB FRAME???,a BOX shaped unit as opposed to the dreaded chrysler K Shaped..KFRAME
a K FRAME is a OLLLLLLLLD Chrysler part that used to used on DUSTERS CHARGERS,CHALLENGERS,AND YES,FURY'S AND MY OL' CORONET AND OTHER B Bodies,and they are/were also a torsen bar front suspension....but hanging a slant six 225...versus a EIGHT 318,340,360,383,400,440,426 was almost IMPOSSIBLE without changing out the KFRAME.


It's pretty much the same as tramsission versus gearbox. It's the same animal, different name. At my work we call any subframe a k-frame, be it from an Opel, a Holden or a Saab, the are all called the same thing. Technically though, subframe is probably right.

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QUOTE (JDC420 @ Apr 27 2006, 01:41 AM)
Yup sub frame bolts right on after some insane r&d, cutting, machining, welding, bolting, swearing, drinking, smoking, and finally....... hammering.  Get 'er done and take some pics.


Are you saying the subframes are not compatible? or are you saying that they are, you just have to deal with all those other issues of an engine swap?