How's the compression on the motor?
I have a similar problem, though my car still runs, it just backfires at random intervals. Changed the whole motor/distributor to a different one and the car still runs poorly. Not looking for a solution, I will find it eventually.
I would check your fuel pressure and compression with a guage.
Cheers,
Mark
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/icon_users.png)
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/uploads/profile/photo-thumb-3795.jpeg?_r=0)
'86 Si Grrrrrrr
Started by jordanh420, Aug 09 2006 11:44 PM
52 replies to this topic
#31
Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:36 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
#32
Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:09 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
QUOTE (Rampage @ Aug 15 2006, 10:36 PM)
How's the compression on the motor?
I have a similar problem, though my car still runs, it just backfires at random intervals. Changed the whole motor/distributor to a different one and the car still runs poorly. Not looking for a solution, I will find it eventually.
I would check your fuel pressure and compression with a guage.
Cheers,
Mark
I have a similar problem, though my car still runs, it just backfires at random intervals. Changed the whole motor/distributor to a different one and the car still runs poorly. Not looking for a solution, I will find it eventually.
I would check your fuel pressure and compression with a guage.
Cheers,
Mark
Compression is excellent. Oh I just talked to the previous owner and he said it was over heated before this started happening.
It's pretty good for what it is.
#33
Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:06 AM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
I have taken a picture of the temperature sensor but am not sure how to go about posting it. If someone can give me directions, I'll post a copy.
#34
Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:59 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
QUOTE
Oh I just talked to the previous owner and he said it was over heated before this started happening.
That I would have a cylinder leakdown test performed as well, then, to see if you have a head gasket leak between cylinders.
Cheers,
Mark
#35
Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:40 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
QUOTE (Rampage @ Aug 17 2006, 01:59 PM)
That I would have a cylinder leakdown test performed as well, then, to see if you have a head gasket leak between cylinders.
Cheers,
Mark
Cheers,
Mark
I was thinking a head gasket problem as well, but I've already done a head gasket and had the head rebuilt while I was at it. I think I'm going to look into the leakdown test, but compression is good on the motor. Thanks for all the help.
It's pretty good for what it is.
#36
Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:44 AM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
I found my problem.
Over a year of being discouraged and down on my crappy little motor I finally found it. I felt for you as soon as I read this thread seeing as I'm going through the same problems.
Here was my solution: I removed and plugged all the vacuum hoses from the black box while the motor was warm. Four little hoses and one large one. Machine screws to plug the hoses, and I left the large one free, as it is a source hose for the black box. You can plug it, if you want. I used one of the rubber caps on the AC rail to plug the small hose on the manifold and a 3/8 rubber cooler line and bolt to plug the large inlet.
Yes, it was that bloody simple.
If you have not tried this, do it now. Remove all the extra crap on your motor and get it as simple as possible.
Good Luck.
Mark
Over a year of being discouraged and down on my crappy little motor I finally found it. I felt for you as soon as I read this thread seeing as I'm going through the same problems.
Here was my solution: I removed and plugged all the vacuum hoses from the black box while the motor was warm. Four little hoses and one large one. Machine screws to plug the hoses, and I left the large one free, as it is a source hose for the black box. You can plug it, if you want. I used one of the rubber caps on the AC rail to plug the small hose on the manifold and a 3/8 rubber cooler line and bolt to plug the large inlet.
Yes, it was that bloody simple.
If you have not tried this, do it now. Remove all the extra crap on your motor and get it as simple as possible.
Good Luck.
Mark
Edited by Rampage, 18 August 2006 - 01:46 AM.
#37
Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:02 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
QUOTE (Rampage @ Aug 18 2006, 02:44 AM)
I found my problem.
Over a year of being discouraged and down on my crappy little motor I finally found it. I felt for you as soon as I read this thread seeing as I'm going through the same problems.
Here was my solution: I removed and plugged all the vacuum hoses from the black box while the motor was warm. Four little hoses and one large one. Machine screws to plug the hoses, and I left the large one free, as it is a source hose for the black box. You can plug it, if you want. I used one of the rubber caps on the AC rail to plug the small hose on the manifold and a 3/8 rubber cooler line and bolt to plug the large inlet.
Yes, it was that bloody simple.
If you have not tried this, do it now. Remove all the extra crap on your motor and get it as simple as possible.
Good Luck.
Mark
Over a year of being discouraged and down on my crappy little motor I finally found it. I felt for you as soon as I read this thread seeing as I'm going through the same problems.
Here was my solution: I removed and plugged all the vacuum hoses from the black box while the motor was warm. Four little hoses and one large one. Machine screws to plug the hoses, and I left the large one free, as it is a source hose for the black box. You can plug it, if you want. I used one of the rubber caps on the AC rail to plug the small hose on the manifold and a 3/8 rubber cooler line and bolt to plug the large inlet.
Yes, it was that bloody simple.
If you have not tried this, do it now. Remove all the extra crap on your motor and get it as simple as possible.
Good Luck.
Mark
Could you post some pics please?
It's pretty good for what it is.
#38
Posted 18 August 2006 - 05:49 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
I have found after fumbling thru some repairs that didn't always solve the problem to take it to a certified mechanic for a diagnosis. I figure it as spending, well, lets say $500 for a repair. Not cheap, but only the cost of one new or used car payment. Cheaper than buying another cheap car and going thru inspections and government fees. And you'll be happy with it. If I can't figure it out, I take it up to Wilq's shop and have let them at it. You save a lot of money if you only F- it up once and learn as opposed to a relative who continually tries and fails doing more damage. Hope you all the best man.
Once a woman is introduced to Colonel Angus, she'll settle for nothing less.
#39
Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:12 AM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
#40
Posted 19 August 2006 - 11:41 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
QUOTE (Rampage @ Aug 19 2006, 01:12 AM)
Sweet, thanks.
It's pretty good for what it is.
#41
Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:28 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
Ok, now it is actually throwing the coolant temp sensor code. I'm changing it tonight, I'll let you know how it goes.
It's pretty good for what it is.
#42
Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:34 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
I was thinking fuel when i was reading your post..maybe the pump is weak...id get a fuel pressure reading before i did anything else
#43
Posted 23 August 2006 - 10:50 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
Ok so i pulled the plugs to replace them today, and they had alot of carbon build up on them. I've had them out before and cleaned them up before i installed them. The car has barely been ran. Heres a pic.
![](http://www.geocities.com/mmfiles/FOULED.JPG)
This leads me to beleive the car is running very rich. THanks for all the help.
This leads me to beleive the car is running very rich. THanks for all the help.
It's pretty good for what it is.
#44
Posted 27 August 2006 - 02:26 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
i just got done with plugs and wires and everything else and it still does the same thing. i pulled the injector wiring off of #3 injector and it didnt make any difference. i checked the connection with a multimeter and it reads the same as the other injectors, so i replaced it and it didnt fix the problem. this made me think about spark. i pulled the plug wire and it made it start a little harder but really didnt make much difference otherwise. unfortunately i dont have a timing light to check for spark there....but for some reason i dont think its a problem. what else could it be?
oh yea i checked fuel pressure too and its really high, like 55-60 range.
oh yea i checked fuel pressure too and its really high, like 55-60 range.
Edited by jordanh420, 27 August 2006 - 02:27 PM.
It's pretty good for what it is.
#45
Posted 31 August 2006 - 11:55 PM
![](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/public/style_images/solid_red323/post_offline.png)
Ok so I was reading some where that compression was supposed to be about 180 psi. My cylinders were as follows:
1: 160
2: 140
3: around 130
4: 160
Someone told me that if they were above 90 psi that the car would run ok, but i think I may have been mislead. Would this cause it to run like I've described? thanks for all the help, i dont know what i would do without you guys.
1: 160
2: 140
3: around 130
![sad.gif](https://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
4: 160
Someone told me that if they were above 90 psi that the car would run ok, but i think I may have been mislead. Would this cause it to run like I've described? thanks for all the help, i dont know what i would do without you guys.
It's pretty good for what it is.