Maybe because I'm just an old fart, but I would never ever rebuild a motor without having the rotating assembly balanced. Especially if it was just going into the station wagon. It's only going to set you back $100 to $150 bucks, and you can call ahead to get it all done on the same day. There is no other single thing you can do to a motor to make it more reliable.
My two pennies.
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Building A "poor Man's Type-r"
Started by zakats, Jul 03 2009 02:42 AM
80 replies to this topic
#16
Posted 04 July 2009 - 01:34 PM
#17
Posted 04 July 2009 - 02:28 PM
QUOTE (firstgencrx @ Jul 4 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe because I'm just an old fart, but I would never ever rebuild a motor without having the rotating assembly balanced. Especially if it was just going into the station wagon. It's only going to set you back $100 to $150 bucks, and you can call ahead to get it all done on the same day. There is no other single thing you can do to a motor to make it more reliable.
My two pennies.
My two pennies.
I hate that you're right
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
#18
Posted 04 July 2009 - 09:28 PM
Yea it should not cost more then 200 bucks and means a hell of allot in longevity of the engine. You dont have to get crazy with lightning or knife edging. Just have all the parts balanced to match each other. Any reputable machine shop can do this work and I would give them the crank, rods, pistons, flywheel and clutch, and the crank pully you decide to use. This and blueprinting are the biggest keys to making a great engine.
Also yes I was referring to compression. We have run the engine on high octane pump since day one and it does not seem to mind. After all the miles he is still averaging close to 30mpg and it use's about a quart of oil every 3,500 miles. Simply amazing motors.
One thing for sure you will have more power then you know what to do with.
Also yes I was referring to compression. We have run the engine on high octane pump since day one and it does not seem to mind. After all the miles he is still averaging close to 30mpg and it use's about a quart of oil every 3,500 miles. Simply amazing motors.
One thing for sure you will have more power then you know what to do with.
Edited by zackspeed, 04 July 2009 - 09:32 PM.
There's people that dont know and people that don't know they don't KNOW!!
#19
Posted 09 July 2009 - 01:52 AM
Starting to wonder on the compression issue, I purchased parts from a guy (gsr ys1) who happens to tune at secret services (speed shop) that has an ITR w/13:1 (+- .5cr) and some skunk 2 cams that claims 42+mpg highway don't recall his gearing though but that is pretty good economy for a DC but I wonder if I could touch 40mpg highway with some tuning...
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
#20
Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:43 AM
Depends on the tune, and how much power you want.
Max power is going to be 12:1 AFR
Max Economy is going to be closer to 14-15:1 AFR
If your going to tune for economy youll want to do a street tune and a highway tune. The Insight runs around 25:1 on the highway.
Max power is going to be 12:1 AFR
Max Economy is going to be closer to 14-15:1 AFR
If your going to tune for economy youll want to do a street tune and a highway tune. The Insight runs around 25:1 on the highway.
#21
Posted 09 July 2009 - 09:58 AM
I dont see why you cant get 40mpg hwy. Both of my friends are averaging 30 or better on there builds and they drive the crap out of their cars.
Edited by zackspeed, 09 July 2009 - 09:58 AM.
There's people that dont know and people that don't know they don't KNOW!!
#22
Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:43 AM
are you still looking for a new shell?
I got 36 mpg with my b18 a1 one time.
I got 36 mpg with my b18 a1 one time.
Oh, you don't know if it's legal?
you're in california of coarse it's ILLEGAL!!!!!
you're in california of coarse it's ILLEGAL!!!!!
#23
Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:46 AM
I forgot to mention that his theory behind it required partial throttle tuning to make 14+ afr unless fully open throttle
At the end of the day my main concern is for the engine to be decently reliable on 93 octane and as low as 90 octane on the highway when traveling since some areas don't even offer as much as 91
At the end of the day my main concern is for the engine to be decently reliable on 93 octane and as low as 90 octane on the highway when traveling since some areas don't even offer as much as 91
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
#24
Posted 09 July 2009 - 04:53 PM
Yea you can do it. Thats what the fuel modifyers are for, get out on the highway and tune the 5th gear modifyer to run leaner and extend your MPG.
#25
Posted 09 July 2009 - 09:06 PM
I'm going to end up spending a bunch of dough on an ostrich and datalogging aren't I? damn... I don't think I'm quite ready for all that
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
#26
Posted 09 July 2009 - 09:11 PM
QUOTE (zakats @ Jul 9 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm going to end up spending a bunch of dough on an ostrich and datalogging aren't I? damn... I don't think I'm quite ready for all that
Well, you can think of that as investment in tools. You can use that kind of stuff on other cars. You might even make a few bucks helping out someone else on tuning their project as well.
#27
Posted 09 July 2009 - 09:24 PM
QUOTE (84b18 @ Jul 9 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are you still looking for a new shell?
I got 36 mpg with my b18 a1 one time.
I got 36 mpg with my b18 a1 one time.
Still considering a shell though I'm starting to lose hope and will probably just keep the crappy old shell, will take a LOT of work to get it where I'd feel it is socially acceptable. I will HAVE TO find some way of installing A/C if I am about to drop over a grand into an engine! if I'm investing that kinda cash into this kinda car (crappy old shell) then it had better at least have a/c
QUOTE (firstgencrx @ Jul 9 2009, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, you can think of that as investment in tools. You can use that kind of stuff on other cars. You might even make a few bucks helping out someone else on tuning their project as well.
I'm not trying to enterprise that deeply and I doubt I could make any money doing it anywhere around here, there are too many competing speed shops with dyno's and good deals.
I feel like I'm getting ahead of myself here, with every new thing I consider, it kinda obligates me to another expense (if I'm going to replace pistons, I might as well bore over .5mm, if I replace pistons I'd better balance, ect ect the list goes on) and my shell really... well let me put it this way, every female I know disdains the car
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
#28
Posted 20 July 2009 - 07:58 AM
Here is the shell I'm looking at, what do you guys think? 1.3 manual (4/5 not sure), non functioning a/c, 181k
not really too sure what to offer the guy
not really too sure what to offer the guy
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
#29
Posted 20 July 2009 - 11:01 AM
i thought all 1.3's had plastic valve covers? well shit that shows what i know. that is a clean ass car tho... and you get a racing seat! (and a stocker with a RACING SEATCOVER! lol)
recessed headlights FTW
oh and bumper guards look sweet on the hatch. looks like you can ram things and not worry bout it!
recessed headlights FTW
oh and bumper guards look sweet on the hatch. looks like you can ram things and not worry bout it!
QUOTE (kjeffery @ Apr 17 2009, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yet again Scott, you have all the answers
QUOTE (cbstdscott @ Apr 17 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No. All the answers are in the Kakabox build thread.
QUOTE (Lymitliss @ May 26 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ohh yeah I guess that makes sense. King Kaymo has all the answers
#30
Posted 20 July 2009 - 11:55 AM
QUOTE (kaymo @ Jul 20 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i thought all 1.3's had plastic valve covers? well shit that shows what i know. that is a clean ass car tho... and you get a racing seat! (and a stocker with a RACING SEATCOVER! lol)
recessed headlights FTW
oh and bumper guards look sweet on the hatch. looks like you can ram things and not worry bout it!
recessed headlights FTW
oh and bumper guards look sweet on the hatch. looks like you can ram things and not worry bout it!
I believe the plastic valve covers came on the crx hf's only
not too interested in that racing seat... I want newer, matching, honda seats if possible and the blue interior needs to be replaced with black.. the blue just doesn't go with red at all... unlessssssss I call the car superman
the bumperettes: if I did get the car, Im sure the JDM whores will be all over me trying to take them off my hands
He who dies with the most toys, wins.