So is wiring a bunch of ground cables around your motor going to give you more Torque and Horsepower?
Hyper Ground System web page.
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Real power or just a joke?
Started by CRX Spaz, Dec 10 2002 01:01 PM
15 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 10 December 2002 - 01:01 PM
-Josh
2006 Acura MDX
2001 Locoblade (Lotus like 7 with CBR 900 motor)
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Sold
1988 Honda CBR 600 Hurrican F1 Sold
1991 Honda CRX Si 1.6 DOHC VTEC (B16A1) Sold
1994 Honda Accord EX Sold
1992 Honda Accord EX RIP
1991 Honda CRX Si Black 1.6 DOHC (ZC) RIP
1991 Honda Civic Si Black 1.6 SOHC RIP
2006 Acura MDX
2001 Locoblade (Lotus like 7 with CBR 900 motor)
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Sold
1988 Honda CBR 600 Hurrican F1 Sold
1991 Honda CRX Si 1.6 DOHC VTEC (B16A1) Sold
1994 Honda Accord EX Sold
1992 Honda Accord EX RIP
1991 Honda CRX Si Black 1.6 DOHC (ZC) RIP
1991 Honda Civic Si Black 1.6 SOHC RIP
#2
Posted 10 December 2002 - 02:10 PM
I would say no.
Unless you have some sort of problem already that the new ground cables were correcting then just adding additional grounds is not going to magically make the motor create more power.
Unless you have some sort of problem already that the new ground cables were correcting then just adding additional grounds is not going to magically make the motor create more power.
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#3
Posted 10 December 2002 - 02:34 PM
#4
Posted 10 December 2002 - 02:44 PM
Well if the ground wire was a thicker gauge, wouldn't it ground better? I don't know about those gain numbers, but it would have some sort of positive effect.
But I don't see why you can't just go to any local audio store and get some thick ass cable to do the same job?
But I don't see why you can't just go to any local audio store and get some thick ass cable to do the same job?
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#5
Posted 13 December 2002 - 10:22 AM
hondas are the cars that make more hp per liter that any other makers..if ground cables give horse power like they say.
why don't you see 10 gauge wires everywhere in the car.
most sensors .relays ,and solenoids required small amount of voltage or signal to work there full. not enough ground wires is bad.
why don't you see 10 gauge wires everywhere in the car.
most sensors .relays ,and solenoids required small amount of voltage or signal to work there full. not enough ground wires is bad.
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#6
Posted 15 December 2002 - 08:37 PM
OK, Gains? where?.....if anything you will get the sparks and voltage to the necessary parts that need them, but it won't give you HP. I deal with making sure everything is grounded on aircraft.... and I can't see any point if any for this setup. well maybe one, the starter, it is always a good idea to replace that cable every ten or so years, the grounds that run to the trany that is to support the starter is also something that needs to be upgraded after time. Honda did a good job grounding their chassis, and eletrical equipment, and we, as owners can also help. if you feel like doing this mod, I am sure you won't feel and extra horsepower, but you will have the confidance to drive the car better.
I will tell you some helpfull hint's here.
A. Save your money and don't buy that kit.
B. A simple Amp installation kit from Walmart will do.
C. Clean and inspect the battery cable ends periodically.
D. if you remove a ground from the engine, then clean the surface, bolts, washers and other metalic parts that come in contact with that particular grounding area.
E. If needed, sand and treat the area that you are working on, with an etch an alodine treatment solution. Zink chromate any surface that you think will be important.
F. As mentioned before in other posts, the vlave cover does not need to be grounded, the bolts that affic it to the head does. Unless you think the oil cap need grounded as well.
G. Oils, water, gaskets, air, rubbers, and anything on the contact surfaces will not conduct as good as metal to metal, so CLEAN THE SURFACE.
any questions???, I will post again.
I will tell you some helpfull hint's here.
A. Save your money and don't buy that kit.
B. A simple Amp installation kit from Walmart will do.
C. Clean and inspect the battery cable ends periodically.
D. if you remove a ground from the engine, then clean the surface, bolts, washers and other metalic parts that come in contact with that particular grounding area.
E. If needed, sand and treat the area that you are working on, with an etch an alodine treatment solution. Zink chromate any surface that you think will be important.
F. As mentioned before in other posts, the vlave cover does not need to be grounded, the bolts that affic it to the head does. Unless you think the oil cap need grounded as well.
G. Oils, water, gaskets, air, rubbers, and anything on the contact surfaces will not conduct as good as metal to metal, so CLEAN THE SURFACE.
any questions???, I will post again.
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#7
Posted 27 December 2002 - 05:16 PM
import tuner(january 2003 issue) test the ground system on
wrx and gained 3 to 5 hp all the way across rpm on the dyno..it's on page 63. it's still hard to believe but they dyno it.
they (import tuner) didn't believe it either.
wrx and gained 3 to 5 hp all the way across rpm on the dyno..it's on page 63. it's still hard to believe but they dyno it.
they (import tuner) didn't believe it either.
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#8
Posted 27 December 2002 - 05:54 PM
cmon import tuner isnt a automotive authority... its a advert.. just like cartoons are 30 minute toy commercials
#9
Posted 30 December 2002 - 11:03 AM
i know ...i still don't believe that you can gain hp from extra ground and replacement wires.
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#10
Posted 30 December 2002 - 11:37 AM
I agree that you will only have a slight gain if your grounding before was really bad. Extra ground should do nothing.
If anyone can tell me somting better than a Weberized ZC I have yet to hear it!
#11
Posted 30 December 2002 - 12:14 PM
see i dont get how people can make this crap and it happens alot some jerk makes a lame product and sells t to dumbasses who dont know better
remember the tornedo or the elec turbo not ground wires crap...
remember the tornedo or the elec turbo not ground wires crap...
#12
Posted 30 December 2002 - 06:54 PM
dude if your that wet in the pants to try it, just go to the local stereo shop and buy some power wire. you could even get it in red. then get the soderless conecter you need, and DIY.
let us know if you unleash the beast.
let us know if you unleash the beast.
ebay id mike_lew
#13
Posted 31 December 2002 - 12:36 AM
Dude Lew, I don't think so.
I just posted this for other people opions. THAT IT DUDE!
I just posted this for other people opions. THAT IT DUDE!
-Josh
2006 Acura MDX
2001 Locoblade (Lotus like 7 with CBR 900 motor)
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Sold
1988 Honda CBR 600 Hurrican F1 Sold
1991 Honda CRX Si 1.6 DOHC VTEC (B16A1) Sold
1994 Honda Accord EX Sold
1992 Honda Accord EX RIP
1991 Honda CRX Si Black 1.6 DOHC (ZC) RIP
1991 Honda Civic Si Black 1.6 SOHC RIP
2006 Acura MDX
2001 Locoblade (Lotus like 7 with CBR 900 motor)
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Sold
1988 Honda CBR 600 Hurrican F1 Sold
1991 Honda CRX Si 1.6 DOHC VTEC (B16A1) Sold
1994 Honda Accord EX Sold
1992 Honda Accord EX RIP
1991 Honda CRX Si Black 1.6 DOHC (ZC) RIP
1991 Honda Civic Si Black 1.6 SOHC RIP
#14
Posted 31 December 2002 - 12:37 AM
well if he gets any hp gains out of it, it would for sure be because it's red. 1 square foot of red = 10 hp we all new that hehe
If anyone can tell me somting better than a Weberized ZC I have yet to hear it!
#15
Posted 02 January 2003 - 11:33 AM
Come on, we all know DANGER Yellow gives more hp than Red does.
-Josh
2006 Acura MDX
2001 Locoblade (Lotus like 7 with CBR 900 motor)
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Sold
1988 Honda CBR 600 Hurrican F1 Sold
1991 Honda CRX Si 1.6 DOHC VTEC (B16A1) Sold
1994 Honda Accord EX Sold
1992 Honda Accord EX RIP
1991 Honda CRX Si Black 1.6 DOHC (ZC) RIP
1991 Honda Civic Si Black 1.6 SOHC RIP
2006 Acura MDX
2001 Locoblade (Lotus like 7 with CBR 900 motor)
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Sold
1988 Honda CBR 600 Hurrican F1 Sold
1991 Honda CRX Si 1.6 DOHC VTEC (B16A1) Sold
1994 Honda Accord EX Sold
1992 Honda Accord EX RIP
1991 Honda CRX Si Black 1.6 DOHC (ZC) RIP
1991 Honda Civic Si Black 1.6 SOHC RIP