You and a buddy are walking down the street. You find an Urban Outdoorsman with an "aNythIng hElps" sign. You feel compassion for this poor veteran/mental patient/amputee and want to give him a little something.
Do you have the right to do so? Can you dig in your pocket and hand this man some change?
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Do You Have The Right?
Started by psychoboy, Sep 03 2010 07:43 AM
15 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 03 September 2010 - 07:43 AM
Your inability to understand my position in no way invalidates the veracity of my opinion
#2
Posted 03 September 2010 - 08:21 AM
#3
Posted 03 September 2010 - 09:03 AM
This is an interesting philosophical question that could be extrapolated further but I'm not going to
I stand on the fence here but I usually go with no, having the thought that 'not I, nor my money, can help this person.' You can find bleeding-heart liberals that can turn into a glenn beck-esq pussy and rant about 'not having a heart' but there is much more to the situation than what meets the eye- of all the multitude of questions or potential hazards of giving the person money, I'll state the obvious one (by no means is an indication of my train of thought on other matters or my regards to this person's integrity): What are they going to do with the money? -will it be spent on alcohol or drugs or anything that won't to a single bit of help to get this person back on their feet.
...too much to say
I stand on the fence here but I usually go with no, having the thought that 'not I, nor my money, can help this person.' You can find bleeding-heart liberals that can turn into a glenn beck-esq pussy and rant about 'not having a heart' but there is much more to the situation than what meets the eye- of all the multitude of questions or potential hazards of giving the person money, I'll state the obvious one (by no means is an indication of my train of thought on other matters or my regards to this person's integrity): What are they going to do with the money? -will it be spent on alcohol or drugs or anything that won't to a single bit of help to get this person back on their feet.
...too much to say
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#4
Posted 03 September 2010 - 12:13 PM
i say no because you are letting that person know that there will always be someone there to hand them money to buy them cigs, beer, liquor, crack or meth or whatever their poison is. so when you hand someone something your making them ask me for money when i come around. and its annoying. stop it.
next time someone asks you for some money, ask them why they arent asking what they can do to EARN a dollar from you. watch them get real confused...
next time someone asks you for some money, ask them why they arent asking what they can do to EARN a dollar from you. watch them get real confused...
QUOTE (kjeffery @ Apr 17 2009, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yet again Scott, you have all the answers
QUOTE (cbstdscott @ Apr 17 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No. All the answers are in the Kakabox build thread.
QUOTE (Lymitliss @ May 26 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ohh yeah I guess that makes sense. King Kaymo has all the answers
#5
Posted 03 September 2010 - 12:18 PM
Is this a trick question??
I'm sure you have the right, but do they have the right to take it?
I'm sure you have the right, but do they have the right to take it?
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#6
Posted 03 September 2010 - 01:37 PM
I guess technically in my state panhandling is illegal and considered breaking the law.Contributing to a panhandler I myself am an accessory to someone breaking the law and am the "cause" of him doing so.
So I guess it is NOT my right legally because that right has been established by the government.
I suppose it is similar to picking up a hitchhiker . I know in some states it is a $1000 fine to do so.
Now If he had a sign that said "I guarantee you a-holes cant hit me with some coins" I would then be obligated to do so.
So I guess it is NOT my right legally because that right has been established by the government.
I suppose it is similar to picking up a hitchhiker . I know in some states it is a $1000 fine to do so.
Now If he had a sign that said "I guarantee you a-holes cant hit me with some coins" I would then be obligated to do so.
#7
Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:21 PM
Give them food. We gave a homeless person a bag of cereal when we were moving, the kind that are individually boxed, and he seemed kindof interested. When we drove back by about half an hour later he was gone and the bag was just sitting there with all the cereal still in it. 90% just want money to buy drugs. You want to feel sorry for them, but don't. Offering them a job is a good one lol, they don't want to work.
#8
Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:29 PM
You have the right to willingly give your money to someone, yes.
I just give them dollar menu burgers if their signs are creative enough.
"Leer jet ran out of fuel, need bail out"
I just give them dollar menu burgers if their signs are creative enough.
"Leer jet ran out of fuel, need bail out"
#9
Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:32 PM
i really wasn't expecting discussion....i'm just asking the question posed.
do you have the right to reach into your pocket and give your money to someone else?
(the thougher questions will come later)
do you have the right to reach into your pocket and give your money to someone else?
(the thougher questions will come later)
Edited by psychoboy, 03 September 2010 - 02:32 PM.
Your inability to understand my position in no way invalidates the veracity of my opinion
#10
Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:49 PM
Yes, I do. You don't but then again, I chunk puppies into the river and scoop cats into garbage bins. Ask Zak, he saw me, and did nothing about it.
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#11
Posted 03 September 2010 - 04:07 PM
What are you even asking? Your question doesn't make sense. You don't expect discussion huh, too bad you posted it on a message board where we discuss things.
#12
Posted 03 September 2010 - 04:32 PM
me = badass so i can do as i please
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#13
Posted 03 September 2010 - 04:38 PM
I guess the simple answer is yes, though not knowing what circumstance you are referring to, its hard to answer. Do you mean legally, ethically, morally, what?
#14
Posted 03 September 2010 - 05:16 PM
I make homeless people fight each other for the money. Winner takes all.
But I don't give them money out of my choice because I have seen them afterwards smoking or getting into a car. In Baltimore it's a business of standing on a corner with a sign. Our local TV station busted a few a couple years ago. A couple of bad apples spoiled the bunch. The legallity of it differs depending on where you are. There are some ordinances against panhandling, or aiding peddlers/panhandlers in certain locations. Kinda like putting money in other peoples parking meters.
But I don't give them money out of my choice because I have seen them afterwards smoking or getting into a car. In Baltimore it's a business of standing on a corner with a sign. Our local TV station busted a few a couple years ago. A couple of bad apples spoiled the bunch. The legallity of it differs depending on where you are. There are some ordinances against panhandling, or aiding peddlers/panhandlers in certain locations. Kinda like putting money in other peoples parking meters.
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#15
Posted 03 September 2010 - 05:32 PM
Being deeply dependant on help from others my self: sure, if i feel i can spare the cash or whatever.
First, my consience goes over the law, second, so what if he spend it on booze... If thats what it takes him to buy hapines for a day, Them who am i to judge?
First, my consience goes over the law, second, so what if he spend it on booze... If thats what it takes him to buy hapines for a day, Them who am i to judge?