Mike's crx of Cheap Trix Racing is hella quick. I rode up to mocksville today to check those guys out. Tony and Mike are two really cool gearheads I could hang with those two anytime. Mikes red si running 7psi of boost put a big ass smile on my face. Ive made up my mind and i dont want a d16, im gonna keep the ew and boost that lil son of a bitch. we hit 85mph like it was nothing and he really didnt have the hammer down either. They really have me wondering why everyone turns to swaps for more power. The EW's will go and do it pretty damn fast. I grinned from the first time i heard the BOV till I got out of the car. I also had a chance to see the Realtime civic wagon Tonys working on boosting and the thing is gonna make one hell of a work horse. Tony's also got a few other tricks up his sleeve but thats for him to show and tell....Ill just keep them to myself rite now.
Mike and Tony.....thanx for letting me hang out with you guys. I made it home in a little under a hour, and no i dont have to sleep on the couch tonight Later guys
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My Ride In Mikes Red Turbo
Started by ibcnya, Sep 24 2006 09:54 PM
16 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 24 September 2006 - 09:54 PM
#2
Posted 24 September 2006 - 11:25 PM
Mainly people go to swaps for even MORE power. A boosted d16 will be faster than a boosted EW. Thusly, swaps. Thank you for playing our game.
#3
Posted 24 September 2006 - 11:55 PM
i really shouldn't have slept in today i hate i missed out on that
1995 ford ranger (beater)
1986 crx si..
wifeys 2000 civic ex ebay coilovers and 17in drag dr11 with nexxen z rated tires soon to be b16 powered with b20 automatic trans (girls)
1986 crx si..
wifeys 2000 civic ex ebay coilovers and 17in drag dr11 with nexxen z rated tires soon to be b16 powered with b20 automatic trans (girls)
#4
Posted 25 September 2006 - 12:35 AM
QUOTE (Maine_Honda_Racer @ Sep 24 2006, 09:25 PM)
Mainly people go to swaps for even MORE power. A boosted d16 will be faster than a boosted EW. Thusly, swaps. Thank you for playing our game.
Except, that most of the people I see swapped stay NA.
But basically it'd say it's like this:
NA Swap - Good Power, Great reliability
Boosted Stock - Better Power, Less reliable
Boosted Swap - Stupid Fast...
But that's just my take on it.
#5
Posted 25 September 2006 - 12:53 AM
personally i'd rather do an NA b series swap....cause mine will be a DD and im not wanting any problems lol
1995 ford ranger (beater)
1986 crx si..
wifeys 2000 civic ex ebay coilovers and 17in drag dr11 with nexxen z rated tires soon to be b16 powered with b20 automatic trans (girls)
1986 crx si..
wifeys 2000 civic ex ebay coilovers and 17in drag dr11 with nexxen z rated tires soon to be b16 powered with b20 automatic trans (girls)
#6
Posted 25 September 2006 - 02:56 PM
I cant believe these are all the comments I have about this post. To make it clear theres no way in hell im gonna spend the bucks ppl spend on engine swaps and such when I have a good platform to work with already. You can say yeah turbos arent realiable for street and blah blah blah but the one i saw yeaterdays at normal throttle runs like a normal rex but if you go as much as half throttle itll plant your ass in the seat and put a smile on your face doin it..I will not swap anything but another ew or d15a3 into my rex if i ever need another engine.
#7
Posted 25 September 2006 - 03:03 PM
low boost on a stock motor = good power and good reliability
na on a b series = more money, same power, same reliability
boosted b series = even more power, less reliability, and a shitload more money.
all statements are speaking in general. if your buddy that races a sponsored honda wants to give you his last years b-series and you snag a used turbo kit on ebay for $150, only the lack of reliability applies, but it will be fun for a while.
ew motors grow on trees around here and home-made turbo kits are getting cheaper each time i build one. as long as you keep the horsepower to a reasonable limit you will still have a super-light car that is very fast and easy on the budget and 90% as reliable as stock.
i think i'll stop there for now. thanks for the visit and the compliments ibcnya.
-tony
na on a b series = more money, same power, same reliability
boosted b series = even more power, less reliability, and a shitload more money.
all statements are speaking in general. if your buddy that races a sponsored honda wants to give you his last years b-series and you snag a used turbo kit on ebay for $150, only the lack of reliability applies, but it will be fun for a while.
ew motors grow on trees around here and home-made turbo kits are getting cheaper each time i build one. as long as you keep the horsepower to a reasonable limit you will still have a super-light car that is very fast and easy on the budget and 90% as reliable as stock.
i think i'll stop there for now. thanks for the visit and the compliments ibcnya.
-tony
-Tony
1986 CRX Si turbo project best 1/8mi et= 8.02
1987 Civic Wagon Real Time 4wd (SOLD)
1993 Del Sol Si (sold)
and Various non-Hondas
www.cheaptrixracing.com
ex Wagovan-Clan Member
#8
Posted 25 September 2006 - 03:28 PM
Also to take into consideration is weight distribution. I assume the EW turbo would be lighter that a B series N/A. Wouldn't the car be more balanced?
#9
Posted 25 September 2006 - 03:34 PM
QUOTE (gtcali @ Sep 25 2006, 03:28 PM)
Also to take into consideration is weight distribution. I assume the EW turbo would be lighter that a B series N/A. Wouldn't the car be more balanced?
yes the ew is alot lighter than most swaps.....therefor the weight distribution and weight period changes very little. if at all....and its alot more conventional on your pocket from what i here
#10
Posted 25 September 2006 - 05:02 PM
I am a fan of the EW and I made the decision to stick with it. I have built a fairly strong (~120hp at the crank) EW that passes California smog inspection and is happy to be driven on the street.
Turbos are not the easiest to build or live with. Some folks make it look easy, but the tuning requirements are not something to take lightly. Unless your REALLY know what you are doing, NA is the way to go.
Scott
Turbos are not the easiest to build or live with. Some folks make it look easy, but the tuning requirements are not something to take lightly. Unless your REALLY know what you are doing, NA is the way to go.
Scott
Form Follows Function
#11
Posted 25 September 2006 - 11:43 PM
I did the EW turbo route. It was great, 232 WHP was the highest numbers I saw. The engines are kinda weak once you cross the 170 mark, I think. Aftermarket parts are hard to find and when you do, they are big money.
Good bye EW
Hello BBBBBBBBBUddy
Randy
Good bye EW
Hello BBBBBBBBBUddy
Randy
#12
Posted 27 September 2006 - 11:56 AM
I missed out on yr visit Ibcnya, I'm literally 3 miles down the road from Mike and Tony. I don't sport turbo anything, I'm into efficiency at the moment. As for the B vs. D-T debate, they both have their strengths/weaknesses but after sampling both versions (including a B-Turbo), my vote is boosted EW. Cost alone is the winner, next is rarity and simplicity, followed by time spent to cheesy grins on the gas ratio. And if you would see my DD, I'm apparently allergic to weight. But to each his own...Mak
QUOTE (therealtime)
i see you did a world class rape on the rest of the vehicle lol.
#13
Posted 03 October 2006 - 07:25 PM
We really enjoyed ibcnya's visit to our little piece of Honda heaven. And makdeisel if you were home once in a while instead of out (beating the streets lol) you could have came over too.We understand though with work school and your own build projects your time is limited. We welcome you guys anytime and any RPR members in the area. when you need another Boost fix come on over. I personally cant wait until therealtime's
(White Beast Of Boost) is terrorising the track again .Wont be long Tony's pumped and so am I.
He has worked long and hard on my red SI turbo but compared too his Beast
he can't quite get the dopamine high he needs driving my street car.
Michael@CTR
(White Beast Of Boost) is terrorising the track again .Wont be long Tony's pumped and so am I.
He has worked long and hard on my red SI turbo but compared too his Beast
he can't quite get the dopamine high he needs driving my street car.
Michael@CTR
#14
Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:15 PM
QUOTE (12valvesnolimit? @ Oct 3 2006, 07:25 PM)
. when you need another Boost fix come on over. I personally cant wait until therealtime's
Michael@CTR
Michael@CTR
Hopefully it wont be long and i can bring my boost fix home with me