one day i might turbo my car it will be a b18c block that i got with the head off my b16a if i do it i want to make big power im already going to get the b18c sleeved and do what i got to do to make the engine handle the boost
right now my car is set up to work with the zdyne one wire for vtec ecu that dosent need vss i will probly need to change the wiring to work with the stock b16a computer and make the car have vss not sure a way around all this
i really dont know a lot about all this stuff so as far as engine managment what do i need
thanks
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I Am Real Confused
Started by Old School CRX Swap, Dec 06 2004 02:10 AM
13 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 06 December 2004 - 02:10 AM
#2
Posted 06 December 2004 - 05:17 AM
ya if you update the motor to obd0 then you'll prolly need a new ems or maybe you can send your zdyne in for an upgrade...not sure what all zdyne offers though
Aidan
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#3
Posted 06 December 2004 - 10:10 AM
i was checking out zdynes website and the zdyne gold computer sounds pretty good but i dont know much about there stuff but it says its good for boost i think ill call them today and find out more but everyone let me know all what is out there
thanks
thanks
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#4
Posted 06 December 2004 - 02:19 PM
Re-chipping a PM6 is the most cost-effective solution.
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#5
Posted 06 December 2004 - 02:45 PM
But re-chipping the ecu (pm6) is still not fully operational for vtech. I have the ecu and am going to attempt it also. I have a b16 but I am unsure of the stability of this ecu for the vtech operation. If you know otherwise please tell me cuz I researching pgmfi for all info but it's still under development.
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#6
Posted 06 December 2004 - 03:12 PM
I met a guy at the meet with a mini-me. He runs a chipped PM6 with MSD's V-tech controller. All it does is turn on the V-tech solonoid over a certain RPM. I don't think its expensive.
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#7
Posted 06 December 2004 - 03:29 PM
do it right! buy a obd0-obd1 conversion harness, chipped p28 ecu and chip it to type r specs (i highly recomend uberdata), that would be the closest to this hybrid motor. then you can tune from there.
Edited by rextec, 06 December 2004 - 03:29 PM.
#8
Posted 06 December 2004 - 05:50 PM
QUOTE (rextec @ Dec 6 2004, 03:29 PM)
do it right! buy a obd0-obd1 conversion harness, chipped p28 ecu and chip it to type r specs (i highly recomend uberdata), that would be the closest to this hybrid motor. then you can tune from there.
zdyne gold is great. I bought mine before all this free stuff came out.Zdyne plugs right in to the stock harness and works awesome.No need for vss unless your looking for something to be controlled by it (full throttle shifts,nitrous etc...)
#9
Posted 06 December 2004 - 06:22 PM
so with the zdyne gold i dont need vss and its good for a turbo motor
Edited by Old School CRX Swap, 06 December 2004 - 06:23 PM.
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#10
Posted 06 December 2004 - 06:49 PM
QUOTE (Old School CRX Swap @ Dec 6 2004, 06:22 PM)
so with the zdyne gold i dont need vss and its good for a turbo motor
this I believe to be true
QUOTE
I met a guy at the meet with a mini-me. He runs a chipped PM6 with MSD's V-tech controller. All it does is turn on the V-tech solonoid over a certain RPM. I don't think its expensive.
this is an og trick, but it still doesn't change the maps for the vtec.
Aidan
5150 Autosports
15110 E. Nelson #C
Industry, Ca 91744
(626) 806-5150
www.socalracer.com
5150 Autosports
15110 E. Nelson #C
Industry, Ca 91744
(626) 806-5150
www.socalracer.com
#11
Posted 06 December 2004 - 10:46 PM
QUOTE (5150CRX @ Dec 6 2004, 06:49 PM)
QUOTE (Old School CRX Swap @ Dec 6 2004, 06:22 PM)
so with the zdyne gold i dont need vss and its good for a turbo motor
this I believe to be true
QUOTE
I met a guy at the meet with a mini-me. He runs a chipped PM6 with MSD's V-tech controller. All it does is turn on the V-tech solonoid over a certain RPM. I don't think its expensive.
this is an og trick, but it still doesn't change the maps for the vtec.it does change the maps if you have them set for vtec...its the same thing as the 1-wire VTEC ZDYNE does, just at 1/5th of the cost
find a ps9 ECU and do the same thing as ZDYNE with TurboEdit
#12
Posted 07 December 2004 - 01:41 PM
On my 87 CRx I have ZDYNE one wire vtec works good Till now I have done 14.2@98 with 2.26 60' times and best mph in the 1/4 100.13 mph. Work's good for me. But the one wire (ZDYNE PR4) ECU I have its not tuneable.
Also ZDYNE doesnt change the EPROM. I have opened mine and they changed de MCU and added some transistors and some jumpers.
I have another project. Its a 91 Integra with a 91 B16A. Its running now using a PS9 ECU . I chipped it with an AT29C256 28 pin chip with (NG48 Bin) and edited with Turboedit. Lots of features and costumizable.
ZDYNE its really good as I have tested it on my CRX, But I want to experiment more with the PS9 ECU not as expensive as the ZDYNE.
Also ZDYNE doesnt change the EPROM. I have opened mine and they changed de MCU and added some transistors and some jumpers.
I have another project. Its a 91 Integra with a 91 B16A. Its running now using a PS9 ECU . I chipped it with an AT29C256 28 pin chip with (NG48 Bin) and edited with Turboedit. Lots of features and costumizable.
ZDYNE its really good as I have tested it on my CRX, But I want to experiment more with the PS9 ECU not as expensive as the ZDYNE.
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#13
Posted 07 December 2004 - 02:10 PM
If that were the case, you could have two ecus and make the MSD switch to the other ecu when Vtec was on. But I think there is some way to do it using the auto transmission's socket that is in the board.
How much is the Zdyne?
this I believe to be true
it does change the maps if you have them set for vtec...its the same thing as the 1-wire VTEC ZDYNE does, just at 1/5th of the cost
find a ps9 ECU and do the same thing as ZDYNE with TurboEdit
How much is the Zdyne?
QUOTE (xenocron @ Dec 6 2004, 10:46 PM)
QUOTE (5150CRX @ Dec 6 2004, 06:49 PM)
QUOTE (Old School CRX Swap @ Dec 6 2004, 06:22 PM)
so with the zdyne gold i dont need vss and its good for a turbo motor
this I believe to be true
QUOTE
I met a guy at the meet with a mini-me. He runs a chipped PM6 with MSD's V-tech controller. All it does is turn on the V-tech solonoid over a certain RPM. I don't think its expensive.
this is an og trick, but it still doesn't change the maps for the vtec.it does change the maps if you have them set for vtec...its the same thing as the 1-wire VTEC ZDYNE does, just at 1/5th of the cost
find a ps9 ECU and do the same thing as ZDYNE with TurboEdit
Edited by Omega Mugen, 07 December 2004 - 02:11 PM.
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#14
Posted 07 December 2004 - 06:58 PM
QUOTE (Omega Mugen @ Dec 7 2004, 03:10 PM)
If that were the case, you could have two ecus and make the MSD switch to the other ecu when Vtec was on. But I think there is some way to do it using the auto transmission's socket that is in the board.
How much is the Zdyne?
this I believe to be true
it does change the maps if you have them set for vtec...its the same thing as the 1-wire VTEC ZDYNE does, just at 1/5th of the cost
find a ps9 ECU and do the same thing as ZDYNE with TurboEdit
How much is the Zdyne?
QUOTE (xenocron @ Dec 6 2004, 10:46 PM)
QUOTE (5150CRX @ Dec 6 2004, 06:49 PM)
QUOTE (Old School CRX Swap @ Dec 6 2004, 06:22 PM)
so with the zdyne gold i dont need vss and its good for a turbo motor
this I believe to be true
QUOTE
I met a guy at the meet with a mini-me. He runs a chipped PM6 with MSD's V-tech controller. All it does is turn on the V-tech solonoid over a certain RPM. I don't think its expensive.
this is an og trick, but it still doesn't change the maps for the vtec.it does change the maps if you have them set for vtec...its the same thing as the 1-wire VTEC ZDYNE does, just at 1/5th of the cost
find a ps9 ECU and do the same thing as ZDYNE with TurboEdit
I got my ZDYNE for $100 about 2 years ago from my cousin. But its about $320 as posted on ZDYNE website. Thats the Conversion for 1 wire VTEC.
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