Yea i was kinda curious about the 1985 crx si. I have heard it rumored to be the fastest crx to make it to north america. I have all so read on a web site that the 1985 crx has less weight and has a better geared tranny than the 86-87 crx si. I have no idea if this is true or not. I think that it is kinda bull presonally, but i guess i could be wrong. It also said that the 85 ran a 16.2 in the 1/4 and the 86-87 ran a 16.7 in the 1/4.?.?.?.?.? check it out here..... no idea if truthful or not
http://kumo.swcp.com.../crx/specs.html
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1985 Crx Si Better Than 86-87 Si?
Started by BigOrange, Sep 08 2004 08:19 PM
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#1
Posted 08 September 2004 - 08:19 PM
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#2
Posted 08 September 2004 - 08:29 PM
The 85 CRX Si is better than the 86-87, because it is lighter, partly due to less body kit, and smaller bumpers.
Apparently it was better geared too, and rumoured to have a hotter cam.
Unfortunately, nobody has been able to properly confirm this information, besides 'the 85 is lighter, and may have had a hotter cam and better gearing'
Cheers,
Mark
Apparently it was better geared too, and rumoured to have a hotter cam.
Unfortunately, nobody has been able to properly confirm this information, besides 'the 85 is lighter, and may have had a hotter cam and better gearing'
Cheers,
Mark
#3
Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:17 PM
I dunno about the hotter cam or anything like that but the CRX specs on this site: http://kumo.swcp.com.../crx/specs.html list the 85 as being 1890 pounds and the 86-87 being 1953.
Both of the 85's Si's I've seen weighed have been in the high 1700 pound range. And these are Stock cars! The 85 I raced against at the Wendover Pro-Solo was neck and neck with me to the 60 foot mark ... and I had 80 HP and 70 ft/lb torque on him! (And 800 more pounds ) ...And my car runs mid 15's in the quarter!
Both our cars are stock! (I left him behind after that, but the pesky bugger caught me and passed me in the twisties on the way back!)
Yes the 85 Si was lighter, and lighter is much better.
...Unless you are crashing.
Both of the 85's Si's I've seen weighed have been in the high 1700 pound range. And these are Stock cars! The 85 I raced against at the Wendover Pro-Solo was neck and neck with me to the 60 foot mark ... and I had 80 HP and 70 ft/lb torque on him! (And 800 more pounds ) ...And my car runs mid 15's in the quarter!
Both our cars are stock! (I left him behind after that, but the pesky bugger caught me and passed me in the twisties on the way back!)
Yes the 85 Si was lighter, and lighter is much better.
...Unless you are crashing.
#4
Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:23 AM
85 Si > 86 Si, 87 Si, 88 Si, 89 Si, 90 Si, 91 Si, 92 Si, 93 Si, 94 Si, 95 Si, 96 Si, and 97 Si.
Catch the drift. It was the fastest CRX imported to the states. And was said before, was lighter, and had better gearing.
Catch the drift. It was the fastest CRX imported to the states. And was said before, was lighter, and had better gearing.
#5
Posted 09 September 2004 - 01:42 AM
didnt the 97 USDM Si have a b16?
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#6
Posted 09 September 2004 - 01:50 AM
#7
Posted 09 September 2004 - 02:04 AM
Cause the 97 Del Sol Si is a pig.. Heavy as heck... It needed the extra support for the targa top..
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#8
Posted 09 September 2004 - 02:20 AM
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Cause the 97 Del Sol Si is a pig.. Heavy as heck... It needed the extra support for the targa top..
Yup. That basically sums it up. Could you imagine how much it would weigh with the transtop?
But that transtop was pimp. No doubt. I almost got a '92 JDM CRX SiR. It was blue..Had the transtop..Shit was sweeet.
In fact, here's the exact car.
http://www.tpimotors...42&LinkTypeID=5
They never took it off their website. That was almost a year ago.
Edited by 1g Supremacy, 09 September 2004 - 02:23 AM.
#9
Posted 09 September 2004 - 02:29 AM
Oh hell yea.. The retractable top was nice.. It also sucked up all trunk space or at least 80% of it.. I would drive that for a DD though .. A 97 Del Sol with the trans-top hmmm nice.. And very rare.. I don't think it made it to North America..
Here's a link for those that haven't seen what it is: Del Sol Trans Top..
But it is still a fat pig..
Here's a link for those that haven't seen what it is: Del Sol Trans Top..
But it is still a fat pig..
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#10
Posted 09 September 2004 - 10:22 AM
I like the Sol, as piggish as it is. I think it's more a CRX then the 2nd gen...What's the 2nd gen renaissance? The 3rd gen was new, and it was different..That's what a CRX should be.
I wouldn't want a '97 thou. They took away the foglights..Lol. I'd want a '93 or 94. With the transtop. They didn't sell them in the US, but they're not very hard to get. Seen quite a few USDM cars with them.
I wouldn't want a '97 thou. They took away the foglights..Lol. I'd want a '93 or 94. With the transtop. They didn't sell them in the US, but they're not very hard to get. Seen quite a few USDM cars with them.
#11
Posted 09 September 2004 - 01:44 PM
Yes the 85 had a lower final drive. However the 86-87 had a lower first gear ratio which balanced out the initial acceleration.
Overall though, the 85 did end up with better gearing than the 86-87.
Really, it's all about the lightweight! If I could loose 50 pounds ... um, I'd be dead! My car on the other hand, I would be very happy to lose 150 pounds!
Overall though, the 85 did end up with better gearing than the 86-87.
Really, it's all about the lightweight! If I could loose 50 pounds ... um, I'd be dead! My car on the other hand, I would be very happy to lose 150 pounds!
#12
Posted 09 September 2004 - 02:27 PM
Per some very reputable sources at Honda the 85 has a hotter cam. If you look at the 85 SI cam it is stamped R1. Not sure if its more lift or duration. Cant remember off hand. Been using them for years.
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#13
Posted 09 September 2004 - 04:11 PM
QUOTE (PacerRacerGirl @ Sep 8 2004, 11:17 PM)
I dunno about the hotter cam or anything like that but the CRX specs on this site: http://kumo.swcp.com.../crx/specs.html list the 85 as being 1890 pounds and the 86-87 being 1953.
Both of the 85's Si's I've seen weighed have been in the high 1700 pound range. And these are Stock cars! The 85 I raced against at the Wendover Pro-Solo was neck and neck with me to the 60 foot mark ... and I had 80 HP and 70 ft/lb torque on him! (And 800 more pounds ) ...And my car runs mid 15's in the quarter!
Both our cars are stock! (I left him behind after that, but the pesky bugger caught me and passed me in the twisties on the way back!)
Yes the 85 Si was lighter, and lighter is much better.
...Unless you are crashing.
Both of the 85's Si's I've seen weighed have been in the high 1700 pound range. And these are Stock cars! The 85 I raced against at the Wendover Pro-Solo was neck and neck with me to the 60 foot mark ... and I had 80 HP and 70 ft/lb torque on him! (And 800 more pounds ) ...And my car runs mid 15's in the quarter!
Both our cars are stock! (I left him behind after that, but the pesky bugger caught me and passed me in the twisties on the way back!)
Yes the 85 Si was lighter, and lighter is much better.
...Unless you are crashing.
my car only weighs 1,834 lbs........ and it is a 87.. hmm and that info is straight from the title.
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#14
Posted 09 September 2004 - 05:58 PM
The '85 Si came with 13" tires while the later cars came with 14" and that can make a big difference in percieved and measured performance. The narrower body of the '85 is also a help.
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#15
Posted 09 September 2004 - 06:41 PM
Plus the 85 has the cooler spoiler. And jet intake headlight buckets.
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