 Rear Internal Sway Bar Question? |
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 Dec 7 2007, 10:12 AM
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 Slowpoke  Group: Members Joined: 5-October 04 From: okmulgee, oklahoma Member No.: 2,036 Drives: 86 si hatch with ls/vtec  |
i was wondering anyone has ever taken out the internal sway bar and just used an external aftermarket one? would this even be a good idea cause i havent taken that apart before so i dont really know how much lighter (if any) it would be compared to and external.. any info??
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Dec 7 2007, 10:21 AM
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Slowpoke Group: Members Joined: 19-January 05 Member No.: 2,390 Drives: 1st gen crx si's and 2nd gen si's |
i pulled the internal when i installed an adjustable aftermarket.
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Dec 7 2007, 10:44 AM
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 Swap in HF drums, check your cam timing Group: 2010 Contributing Member Joined: 11-March 03 From: CRX Heaven, Los Angeles Member No.: 438 Drives: '87 CRX Si, '07 Civic Si Sedan, '93 DX Hatchie Image Gallery |
You can leave the internal bar in when you add an external bar. I suggest a Lightspeed Racing rear bar (if you can find one). The Addco rear bar is a similar design. The Suspention Techniques bar is not as well designed.
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Dec 7 2007, 11:34 AM
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 On the Podium Group: Contributing Member Joined: 25-October 04 From: New Jersey Member No.: 2,117 Drives: 85 CRX H2 Racecar |
You can also remove the swing bearing and replace it with the same bracket that goes one the drivers side. Narrows up the track a little so you can put a wider wheel/tire on and still clear the body. Last race I ran I did not have a swaybar on the car either and it handled quite nicely. Very stable car.
Z -------------------- 1985 CRX Si H2 Racecar
2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS with a WRX swap |
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Dec 7 2007, 01:17 PM
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 Leadfoot Group: 2009 Contributing Member Joined: 1-February 03 From: Virginia Beach, VA Member No.: 376 Drives: 1986 CRX Si/1987 Integra LS Hybrid |
QUOTE (Zephyr @ Dec 7 2007, 11:34 AM)  You can also remove the swing bearing and replace it with the same bracket that goes one the drivers side. Narrows up the track a little so you can put a wider wheel/tire on and still clear the body. Last race I ran I did not have a swaybar on the car either and it handled quite nicely. Very stable car. Z this also locks the trailing arms to the axle, making the whole system a sway bar, correct? that is how I run my car, but I just welded the bearing and cut out the torsion bar. -------------------- Tony Palumbo
'86 CRX Si ZC |
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Dec 7 2007, 01:25 PM
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On the Podium Group: Contributing Member Joined: 25-October 04 From: New Jersey Member No.: 2,117 Drives: 85 CRX H2 Racecar |
You are correct Tony, reason I went this rout is because my plan is to put Integra rear brakes on the car for next season as well as a few other items and make it a H2 car.
-------------------- 1985 CRX Si H2 Racecar
2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS with a WRX swap |
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Dec 7 2007, 06:51 PM
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Slowpoke Group: 2010 Contributing Member Joined: 1-December 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 994 Drives: '89 Civic Sedan (turbo), 2000 Suburban 4x4 (lifted), 85 CRX Si (project) |
QUOTE (Zephyr @ Dec 7 2007, 01:25 PM) You are correct Tony, reason I went this rout is because my plan is to put Integra rear brakes on the car for next season as well as a few other items and make it a H2 car. Wait a minute....You don't need to weld? You just need to replace the passengers side bracket with the drivers side? |
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Dec 7 2007, 07:39 PM
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 Demon Of All Trades Group: 2010 Contributing Member Joined: 21-June 04 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 1,700 Drives: 87 Civic Si, 88 Civic DX, 90 CRX DX Image Gallery |
QUOTE (gtcali @ Dec 7 2007, 05:51 PM) Wait a minute....You don't need to weld? You just need to replace the passengers side bracket with the drivers side? Aparently you can use a 2nd drivers side bracket and fit it to the passanger side. --------------------  |
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Dec 11 2007, 10:09 PM
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Slowpoke Group: Members Joined: 5-October 04 From: okmulgee, oklahoma Member No.: 2,036 Drives: 86 si hatch with ls/vtec |
very nice info on that..i dont really like running crazy rear camber to keep my tires from rubbing...as for the addco rear sway bar...anyone know where i can get one?
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Dec 12 2007, 10:35 AM
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 In the left lane Group: Members Joined: 9-January 05 From: muscle shoals, al Member No.: 2,350 Drives: 2002 civic si, 1986 civic si, 91 s13 hatch. 79 civic 1200 |
just remove the swing bearing and bolt the same brake bracket to the axle tube. thats what I did until I thought, "what if it rains at a track day"? it has the potential to have lots of oversteer at speed in the wet. I have a welded plate that I can swap in if I choose to, but I'm not locked into using something if the conditions change. it does feel nice in the dry with the rear being solid.
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Dec 13 2007, 02:27 PM
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 Nothing's stock at this house . . . Group: Contributing Member Joined: 18-December 03 From: Kansas Member No.: 1,062 Drives: 85 CRX, 90 Civic EX, 04 CR-V, 04 MINI Cooper Image Gallery |
QUOTE (ea_hatch @ Dec 11 2007, 11:09 PM) ..i dont really like running crazy rear camber to keep my tires from rubbing... Say what? How are you adjusting that? As always, sweet car dude. Mike -------------------- No power . . . no weight
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Dec 13 2007, 06:26 PM
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Slowpoke Group: Members Joined: 5-October 04 From: okmulgee, oklahoma Member No.: 2,036 Drives: 86 si hatch with ls/vtec |
just add some shims to the bottom 2 bolts on the spindles
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Dec 13 2007, 06:37 PM
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Nothing's stock at this house . . . Group: Contributing Member Joined: 18-December 03 From: Kansas Member No.: 1,062 Drives: 85 CRX, 90 Civic EX, 04 CR-V, 04 MINI Cooper Image Gallery |
QUOTE (ea_hatch @ Dec 13 2007, 07:26 PM) just add some shims to the bottom 2 bolts on the spindles Oh. Right on. I guess that would work. Hey, how's the weather down there? I'm a bit north of you, but I'm sure you got it worse than we did. -------------------- No power . . . no weight
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Dec 14 2007, 07:48 AM
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 go ahead. eat me.. Group: 2010 Contributing Member Joined: 7-September 03 From: Strasburg, VA USA Member No.: 807 Drives: 1986 Civic Si, 1988 Civic 4 door, 1991 Civic Si, 1994 Miata, 1987 Ford F150, 2008 Fit Sport Image Gallery |
well, if you'd raise your car to an acceptable height!!! hahahaa j/k.
i am running the addco setup on my car and it handles nice even with the stock internal bar and swing-arm crap in place. as for where you can purchase, google it. like www.swaybars.com i think sells 'em. http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/v/E...me/aaj.jpg.html -------------------- 1986 Civic Si; b16a is in.. just gotta get it running..
anything you've ever wanted to know about a honda, specs-wise: http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/index.html My car is everything that Scotts is not. :) |
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