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1984 CRX Spyder

I recently had a conversation with a gentleman from Dallas. He owns a 1984 CRX 1.5 Spyder that he bought new. Here is his story:

He read the Road & Track (July '84) article about the Straman conversion into a convertible. He immediately called up Straman to see what he needed to do to buy one of these conversions. He was told that he had a few options. He could buy a CRX and ship or drive it to SoCal. He could also order the conversion straight from the dealership (the dealer would have the car shipped & converted), or buy one already converted from Straman. Either way, the price was the same. (My '86 CRX was ordered from the dealer with the conversion, per my window sticker) The conversion price was $4995 in 1984, but his brother owned a car dealership, so he paid wholesale price for the conversion, at $4100. The July '84 article lists the estimated price of $4000-$4500 for the conversion, so it went up to $4995 for actual production. This means the dealership markup was $895. If you had it converted without the dealer's help, you still paid full price. That encouraged the new-car-dealer to contract directly with Straman. That means less hassle for Straman, since dealers are easier to handle than picky private owners. I have copies of all the above information from his file.

He ordered his CRX around July from Honda and got delivery of the car around August. He then drove it to Costa Mesa (from Dallas) for the conversion and to meet Richard Straman and tour the shop. He was very impressed and said there where several cars undergoing surgery, including some exotics. He then flew home. Two or three weeks later, he flew back to pick up the car.

It was good to talk with him. His car is the only white spyder I have seen, and also the only '84 model. I am sure many other '84's exist though. It was interesting to hear the story. I remember that japanese trade restrictions were still in place and no Honda dealers had big lots full of cars. I bought a new '83 Accord and new '84 Civic and the only Honda cars on the lot were the demonstrator cars (and maybe a couple others). No midwest japanese car dealers had thier own facility. They were usually run out of a bigger-volume domestic dealership, like Olds or Chevy. I had to wait 4-8 weeks for delivery of my cars, also. You could not bring your old car that was 2 days from death and expect to take delivery of a new Honda/Toyota/Mazda/etc that day. You either bought a domestic or ordered your import and rented a car until yours could be built and delivered. A few foriegn dealers would have a some tiny bit of inventory, but you couldn't be picky about colors or options. (By the time I bought my new '89 Prelude, the import restrictions were gone and foriegn dealerships had lots of inventory.)

He sent me his original paperwork. It is very interesting. The car's base mrsp ('84 CRX 1.5) was $6,592.00 plus $174.00 destination charge. No deals were made back then for these desirable cars, so he paid full retail price. His total price paid was $10,866.00 (plus other optional equipment and taxes).

My '86 CRX 1.5 Spyder has a base msrp of $7,339.00 and destination charge of $189.00. Add the conversion price of $4995 (+ $780.00 in additional freight for the conversion) and the total comes to $13,303 plus other options and taxes. My window sticker shows that the options (spyder conversion, stereo/cassette + 4 speakers, alloy wheels, floor mats, AC, tail light panel, dealer prep) cost more than the car did! MSRP/d.c.=$7,528, options=$8,295, Total was $15,823.00 plus taxes.

He sent me the original Straman brochure for the CRX conversion. I have been looking for this for a long time. It was a black & white photocopy. That is how Straman gave them out. That seems primative, but our expectations of a color brochure did not exist twenty years ago. Now I share this brochure with you.

Do any of you other Straman owners have the original paperwork for your car? Share what you know.......

P.S. Note that Straman refers to these as "spyders", and so should we!

http://www.flickr.co...11748264&size=o
http://www.flickr.co...1...ream&size=o

Edited by slimwhitman, 05 March 2007 - 05:00 PM.


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Im jealous. dry.gif
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There is one for $900 In my area.. I wish I had the room to get it...its in a previous post of mine..

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Id be all over that
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unfortunately I've only had mine for one and a half years and it came with no origenal paperwork but it did have the Straman sticker in the drivers side door jam. I've collected a fair amount of info in the short time I've owned it. There was a Straman catalog on ebay not to long ago but I didn't have the extra cash to spend on it so I missed out.

I have always considered them Spyders and have the spyder emblem on mine and get harassed about it often because most idiots think spyder is a Mitsubishi and not a term to discribe a Convertible.

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I don't have any of the original paperwork for my "spyder"...but I was able to amass a certain amount of info concerning my car.

I wasn't able to get any useful info from the previous owner. He was more of a "broker-dealer" than I had originally realized.
So a carfax report showed at least three previous owners. I was able to determine the selling dealer was Saint Loius Honda in Missouri. I sent a email to their internet office and actually recieved a reply from someone who still works there from way back in '85.

He remembered the car. The owner of the dealership had delt with Straman before on a personal vehicle and when the dealership recieved their first CRX in 85, it was sent for the conversion. (My plate in the door jamb states conversion completion in February 85). After it was done and shipped back to St. Loius, it sat in the showroom for almost eight months. It was finally purchased by a 55 year old woman who traded in a VW Karman Ghia convertible.
I purchased the car in June 05...so some 20 years in between I still don't know the details.


And Doug...the Straman "catalog" on EBAY....don't worry about it. It is in good hands cool.gif (needs scanning)
It was more of a collection of miscellaneous 1 or 2 page brochures (and the photo-copied Road and Track article)

And concerning the term "spyder"... I prefer to think of mine as "speedster" due to powertrain upgrades (B16 now and turbo soon) ph34r.gif

Edited by SEEKERone, 05 March 2007 - 11:22 PM.


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My mom bought the Si new back in '85. The reason she wanted the SI version over the DX or the Hf was
A) due to the over-all sporty-ness of the package
B] The sun roof...

I was showing her an artical in one of my books. The artical "Project Spyder" consisted of the CRX Spyders. Well, she went irate because she wanted a convertible, and the dealership (Miller Honda in Winchester, Va) never mentioned anything about the Spyder...


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its time for me to make a contribution to the RPR community,
i actually own one of those magazines
that shows how the conversion was done.
i scanned it in so i could submit it to my insurance company to prove my car is wroth $

i just registered for a gallery. as soon as i can upload, i will.
i never thought to upload this mag,

i hope this gets stickied as this information is not found anywhere else on the internet.

http://img515.images...351/crx1ht7.jpg -cover

http://img102.images...111/crx2nl5.jpg

http://img339.images...609/crx3kq5.jpg

http://img102.images...452/crx4yv4.jpg



http://img339.images...409/crx5up5.jpg

http://img515.images...627/crx6et8.jpg

http://img515.images...813/crx7xu9.jpg


http://img102.images...505/crx8wi9.jpg

http://img102.images...317/crx9vb0.jpg

http://img515.images...23/crx10ee9.jpg
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/434210 - thats my ride, 1985 honda crx si convertible by R. Stramman.


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bump to make sure you guys saw this i dont think ive seen pics of this scanned mag posted before.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/434210 - thats my ride, 1985 honda crx si convertible by R. Stramman.


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QUOTE (wyclefcupcake @ Mar 9 2007, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bump to make sure you guys saw this i dont think ive seen pics of this scanned mag posted before.

Wow! Great article! Wish I was into the CRX's back then. Woulda traded in my 911S targa for one of these. Oh well, live and learn laugh.gif

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laugh.gif I had that magazine back then!

I have a question for some of you guys that have done some research on the Stramans. Do any of you know if they ever did a Legend coupe? The first generation one from the late 80's. I only ask because I just saw one last weekend.

Believe me, I was completely surprised when I realized that it was indeed a Legend. I was wishing that I hadn't left my camera back at the trailer too.

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QUOTE (jsgprod @ Mar 10 2007, 07:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question for some of you guys that have done some research on the Stramans. Do any of you know if they ever did a Legend coupe? The first generation one from the late 80's. I only ask because I just saw one last weekend.


I have seen that Newport Conversions did some 2nd Gen Legend Convertibles. I'm not sure about first Gen. I know that Straman did NOT do any mass production Legend conversions. See a few Newport conversions:

http://www.newportco.......0&startat=1

http://www.acura-leg...ght=convertible

http://www.acura-leg...ght=convertible

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I just stumbled on to this jdmrides thread and thought i'd share it. It shows some older photos of a 2nd Gen CRX made into a convertible. It looks well done, though a bit uncomfortable looking to the eye. Have any of you seen a crx with this conversion? anyone know of a coach company that cut on the 2nd gens? The author says it is a Straman, but I think he is mistaken. (i see a couple rpr members cars on this thread, added by someone.)

http://www.teknotik....o...3323&page=2

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Just found this very nice Straman CRX for sale in Portland. Any takers?

http://portland.crai.../457881667.html

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