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[lambs]

I'll be replacing the control arm bushes in my daughter's 1986 sedan soon, but am wondering whether I should look at replacing all the subframe bushes. The car has done 260K kms and is in pretty good condition for it's age/km's. Are there any guidelines for when these need doing ?? One of the problems will be that the bushes are only likely to be available from Honda in Australia, and probably will cost $$$$, although I could look at importing some (assuming they are available cheaper OS).

[funkmaster]

buy the Energy Suspernsion urethane bushing master set.
Its like $80 and you get pretty much every suspension bushing.
The urethane is stiffer than teh stock rubber, but its not bad.

I would definitely replace all of the bushings in the front end, especially if youre taking it apart far enough to do the front control arms (aka radius arms).

The kit is available from Jegs.com, but I dont know if they do international shipping.

[rpr]

The control arm bushings are the only replaceable rubber bushings in the front suspension, so you don't have any more work to do. Read the section in the service manual and you should not have any problems.

Tom

[funkmaster]

what about the front swaybar links?
Do the civics not have one?

[Maine_Honda_Racer]

You certainly can replace those, though they only take about 5 minutes to replace. It never hurts to do them in addition to the control arm bushings.

[rpr]

The original ones on my car were rock hard after 18 years or so, I barely considered them rubber...

[3GCVC]

i had some place ship me some energy suspension bushings in NZ let me look for who it was...

here we go email these guys if you want the energy suspension.

this was my order to new zealand so probably a bit different shipping to Auz sure they can do it though.

its delsol tuning but they got them for me so assume they still can do so

Graham Slaughter [email protected]


Total amount: $141.51 USD

Parts Ordered in this invoice: Hyperflex Kit (1618101G)
Cost: $77.01
Shipping via USPS Express: $64.50

[lambs]

Parts Ordered in this invoice: Hyperflex Kit (1618101G)

Thanks for that info. I looked up the details of that kit and it doesn't seem to include the bushes I was thinking of, which are the ones pressed into the subframe and used to mount it to the body. Shown here in the '87 Civic WS manual:

http://www.redpepper...20/aao.png.html

Maybe these don't give trouble and only need replacing after, say, an accident (he says hopefully......)

[rpr]

I didn't even know there were bushings there. I've never replaced them, but for my race car, I probably will do them in Delrin.

[badpenny]

Aww, crap. I need to get these for when I actually accomplish my power to manual steering rack conversion.

[kakabox]

I didn't even know there were bushings there. I've never replaced them, but for my race car, I probably will do them in Delrin.

Huh?
I didn't know either...weird, these bushings are not shown, or mentioned, in my 3g Civic or 1g Integra FSM.

I know for a fact that the Kakabox ('87 3g Si) does not have these bushings (or provisions for) in the locns shown in the diagram.

I notice the WS diagram referenced...

...says 'Sedan' in parentheses.

Hmmmm, maybe 'sedan' specific parts?

[funkmaster]

I just looked at the spare CRX subframe I have, and it does NOT have these bushings. I think you are correct KAKA that these must be a sedan specific part.

[rpr]

I thought the same thing, that I don't recall ever seeing them, I even checked the URL (87 Civic) didn't notice the 'sedan' part, which makes sense.

[kakabox]

Probably the sedan got the bushings for better Noise Vibration and Harness (NVH) rather than for performance. The sedan probably was marketed more towards older, and/or more family orientated folks, hence, more ride and noise comfort than the CRX/Hatch.

[lambs]

The sedan probably was marketed more towards older, and/or more family orientated folks, hence, more ride and noise comfort than the CRX/Hatch.

Hey, I resemble that remark

I think your right, the sedan is definitely not a sporty machine (from the factory), although I would have thought the hatch would have been built along similar lines and the CRX is the sports car.

In any event, it looks like Honda is the only option for these.