I've seen dyno tests performed with a stock manifold versus a Pacesetter. It was on a rotary engine, but they seem to be more responsive to "breathing" modifications than a piston engine. Not only did the out-of-the-box Pacesetter not fit properly it lost an average of 2hp across the board. After the owner spent a few hours porting the collector to get it somewhat smooth, it made slightly more than the stock manifold at peak, but still was a bit lower through the midrange than the stock manifold. The moral of this story? A used DC header is a much better deal than a brand new Pacesetter...
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Headers
Started by tyrone, Aug 19 2004 09:41 AM
23 replies to this topic
#16
Posted 19 August 2004 - 05:37 PM
#17
Posted 19 August 2004 - 06:08 PM
For the benefit of argument, I have had pacesetter, Chikara, and DC Sports. On my 87 CRX (1.5 SOHC) I had the pacesetter header AND full exhaust. Both sucked, not just for rust, but for design. The header flange that connected to the exhaust pipe broke. The exhaust rocked back and forth due to lack of support and punched a whole in the muffler. AND they rust. It made the car way louder, but I didn't get much if any gain. I had the Chikara on my 85 CRX (1.5 SOHC only application for first gen, don't believe they have 1.6 DOHC) and it made a noticable difference. More torque and kick. Held up okay, but exterior rusted, so get it coated if you plan on keeping it. Mine was a halfway point to my ZC. I now have the DC header for my 85 CRX ( 1.6 DOHC ZC). Don't know about gains since it was installed with ZC. Good quality. Ceramic coated, minor rust specks. Held up well, even to bottoming out. If you get a pacesetter you may want the welds reinforced, and have it coated. If I am correct, (As there is doubt?) I think from my research, Brospeed, Pacesetter, and Monza are the same. I think Brospeed was the brand Paeco used and they said it was basically a Pacesetter. Happy hunting.
Edited by ChrisF-dude, 22 August 2004 - 08:42 PM.
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#18
Posted 19 August 2004 - 06:49 PM
QUOTE (Erik @ Aug 19 2004, 05:00 PM)
not to be rude...but have you ever tried the pacesetter header? cuz when i went from the stock mani to the header there was a hell of a gain in preformance so i am just wondering if u have tried it?
OK, man. I see your point, and I say to each his own. If you like Pacesetter, go with them. In fact, they sell a whole exhaust system complete with Monza tips if you want them. But, I won't be trying a Pacesetter header. I have my own plans for exhaust, and they don't include Pacesetter. I'll probably get a Lightspeed because I like their customer service and their products, and I think they are the kind of company that deserves to be around a while. Good luck.
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#19
Posted 20 August 2004 - 11:10 AM
QUOTE (Omega Mugen @ Aug 19 2004, 06:49 PM)
QUOTE (Erik @ Aug 19 2004, 05:00 PM)
not to be rude...but have you ever tried the pacesetter header? cuz when i went from the stock mani to the header there was a hell of a gain in preformance so i am just wondering if u have tried it?
OK, man. I see your point, and I say to each his own. If you like Pacesetter, go with them. In fact, they sell a whole exhaust system complete with Monza tips if you want them. But, I won't be trying a Pacesetter header. I have my own plans for exhaust, and they don't include Pacesetter. I'll probably get a Lightspeed because I like their customer service and their products, and I think they are the kind of company that deserves to be around a while. Good luck.
yeah your right to each there own i mean i am having success with it some others haven't but hey good luck on your exhaust and can you post pics of it i would like see it
#20
Posted 20 August 2004 - 12:52 PM
try www.cyberauto.com there going to hook me up with a header on my 86 ZC crx when im ready, they can get the DC and the Pacesetter.
#21
Posted 20 August 2004 - 01:16 PM
For the DC sports header does that only fit the stock EW engine on the first gens? It wouldnt fit the D16A1 would it, or do they make one for that engine?
#22
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:40 PM
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try www.cyberauto.com there going to hook me up with a header on my 86 ZC crx when im ready, they can get the DC and the Pacesetter.
wow I called that place looking to get the header and talk about having some terrible customer service.. i wouldnt recomend anyone spending money with this company
Is there anything on these damn cars that IS hard to repair?
#23
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:03 PM
QUOTE (sibfox @ Aug 20 2004, 02:40 PM)
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try www.cyberauto.com there going to hook me up with a header on my 86 ZC crx when im ready, they can get the DC and the Pacesetter.
wow I called that place looking to get the header and talk about having some terrible customer service.. i wouldnt recomend anyone spending money with this company
What happened??? Details please
#24
Posted 22 August 2004 - 10:12 AM
they do take a while to get back to you, i normally email them and they take 2, 3 days to get back to me but they are about the only people who can ship performance parts from america to england so i don't have alot of choice.
what happened anyway?
what happened anyway?