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Im in the process of overhauling the car, and bushings are definatly on the list. I just need to know how much down time to figure in. I have already replaced the tierod ends, and will be diving in a little deeper in the next couple weeks. The parts I already have; clutch kit, rear main, oil pan gasket, rotors,. and I will definalty be getting some; better pads, cv axles, and shocks.

Are any of the bushings push in, or like many of the newer hondas in need of a press, or a big hammer and torch? I will get the kit, but if I dont have time to install them all now who knows when they will get in there.

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Hey Karl. I drove the white crx at CMP. ph34r.gif

I have a press from harbor freight. here is the page on it:

http://www.harborfre...itemnumber=4711

I swapped all the bushings on my CRX and also a few other cars with it, and I have used it for a few odd jobs also like bending a peice of metal that i couldn't get to bend in the vise. My point is you might wanna go ahead and invest in the thing...

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I've been looking at that same unit as well! Would come in real handy for replacing front hub bearings. I use our press at work on my lunch break but they are starting to frown on that.

Could have used that when I replaced the U-joints on my truck a few years back.

BTW, 6 tons is more than enough capacity (front hubs use 1-2 tons).
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I have the 12 ton floor standing version of that same unit. It works great! Definitely more than I need for the wheel bearings or any bushings.

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I got the energy bushing kit. All the front bushings are push in. The control arms, sway bar end links, shifter, etc. I haven't gotten around to replacing my rear trailing arm bushings (some idiot at Honda designed the gas tank too close to the right arm and I'm not in the mood to drop the tank yet...again). I would guess that you could get by with the hammer and torch on those as long as you pull the whole axle to do it. Something about a torch near a gas tank that makes me shudder. My current plan to is to use a torch and bfh. However, that press looks pretty helpful.

Edited by pmpicci, 13 July 2004 - 08:51 AM.


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Greg,
They have them at the Harbor Freight store by the Airport!

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That's a great press to have but it won't work too well for the torque tube bushings if you ever have to do them. You will need a special Honda tool. Check the Manual pages I inserted in this thread to see what I mean. JS
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All of the front bushings can be installed by hand, there is no "press to fit" required for the 1st Gen's front suspension bushings.

The rear's do need a press to install...... but you can have your local machine shop press the old ones out and the new one's in for pocket change.

I have the new bushings in the front adn it makes a world of difference. I have not gotten around to the rears. Maybe when I replace my light rear aluminum drums with those worthless, heavy rear disks wink.gif


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Scott or anyone else:

Have you ever had to change the bushings in the swing arm/torque tube front? I ask because I haven't got a total car and the crossmember I have still looks not too bad. But when I finally have all the frame and parts together for the Mini/Teg conversion it may be worth while to do while everything is apart.

As I stated above, from my enquiries at Honda/Acura you need the special tool to do it. I would like to know if anyone has done it at all or without the special tool? JS

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I don't know anyone who has done it, not to say that it doesn't need to, but that does not seem to be a particular problem area.
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QUOTE (strudel @ Jul 13 2004, 01:48 PM)
Have you ever had to change the bushings in the swing arm/torque tube front?

I am not aware of any bushing in the torque tube.

The swing arm bushing is a set of two donut thingys per side that just slip right on. No pressing needed.

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Scott, there is a rubber bushing in the front end of the torsion bar tube.

I replaced mine with the harder mugen bushings back in '91. Had to torch the stock ones out and it took me the better part of an afternoon to knock the steel sleeve out with a tool I cobbled together.

Honestly can't say that it makes that much difference though.

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Thanks everybody, good info and a lot of it.

I guess I will get the kit, install all the front parts now, and drive it to the shop http://www.deltagroupmotorsports.com/ later to install the rear hardware.

And Dave, small world, "bumping" into you here too wink.gif

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Scott,

I hope I wasn't using the wrong terminology that may have confused you. If you look at the link I posted you will see the FSM page showing what I meant.
Swing arm in my mind is the flat bar on the front of the crossmember that attaches with splines to the t-bar in the front. As jsgprod said there is a bushing and metal sleeve in there and requires,apparantly, a special toll or some very innovative methods to R and R. You are referring to the 2 bushes in the lower control arm. JS

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