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Super-Quick Steering

Started by RETROCRX, Jul 10 2013 08:55 AM

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:55 AM

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Howdy Fellas,

 

Thought you guys might be interested in my latest mod....

 

I've installed a 2:1 steering quickener in the car.  I've always thought the steering rack ratio was too slow and have always wanted to improve it.

 

I ended up deciding on the Howe Engineering Steath steering quickener because it is the only one I could find that had inline input and output shafts. 

 

I probably could have gone with a 1.5:1 ratio but an inline quickener is not availale in that ratio.

 

Anyway.....here's what I came up with....

 

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This is the installed quicker next to an OEM (scrapyard) column.

 

And here are a few closeups...

 

Side......

 

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And Top.......

 

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After getting this installed last Saturday, I took the car lapping on Sunday..........

 

All I have to say is WOW!  I flippin LOVE it.  The steering effort is double what it used to be obviously, but it's made driving the car almost exactly like driving a race kart!  I only need 90 degrees of steering lock for the tightest of corners and it's given me the confidence to really push the car hard because I don't worry that I can't crank in oppo quick enough anymore.

 

For the record I spent the day on Sunday beating on cars with DOUBLE my horsepower at least.  I cannot recall how many Subaru STIs and BMW M3s I passed.  On average I was lapping my local track (Mosport Driver Development Track) about 6 seconds a lap quicker than these cars!

 

It was a good day, and I earned a bit of respect for being able to do so much with so little horsepower (140hp if I'm lucky, probably less)

 

Anyway, I'll get my videos of the day uploaded soon and add them here......

 

Cheers

 

Rob


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:16 AM

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http://www.howeracin...-quickener.aspx

 

Ok, for a $150, you can start blowing by STIs and M3s?!?!?! SOLD!


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:18 AM

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Man thats awesome, congrats, great work!! Which rack and pinion are you running?


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:29 AM

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http://www.howeracin...-quickener.aspx

 

Ok, for a $150, you can start blowing by STIs and M3s?!?!?! SOLD!

 

All said and done after getting the parts I needed macining and so.....it was about $500 to do.

 

And that said......that ain't the ONLY thing done to the car to make it an STI killer..........the quickener was just the LAST thing.  The car has a mod list as long as your arm....if not longer.

 

Rob

 

Oh and to add to that......the STIs and M3 just WALK away from me in a straight line!  I'll try and get the vid posted tonight.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:30 AM

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Man thats awesome, congrats, great work!! Which rack and pinion are you running?

Just a stock 87Si rack.......

 

Rob


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:34 AM

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cant wait for the video! :D


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:31 AM

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Good job retro, looks awesome. I was inrterested to see how it would work when we were taking about this a lil while ago. :-)

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

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Hmmmm, interesting.

My stock Si steering rack required more turns than winding an 8 Day Clock. I had never considered a steering quickener.

I sourced an HF steering rack from the local pick a part for about $50 that bolted right up. Steering effort is only slightly increased but steering input is vastly reduced.

I find that the modern cars with awd and traction control are tough to beat. But I can worry anybody in the fwd/no traction control classes.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

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Here's a vid from a guy in a stock Forrester......I appear very briefly at 5:50 of the vid

 

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

 

Rob


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:41 PM

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I'm not sure I saw you, but I did see a flash of blue, and then it was gone! ;)


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

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I would love to do this for autocross along with power steering.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:35 PM

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I would love to do this for autocross along with power steering.

With the size of rubber you use Aren.....you'd probably need power steering.  It's bad enough with my 205s especially at slow speeds.

 

Rob


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:45 PM

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great project!!


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:27 AM

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Here are the best of the vids.....

 

Enjoy

 

Session 1 in the Rain

http://youtu.be/utvJ8E6RyrQ

 

Most of Session 2 

http://youtu.be/2b22j5HRgZw

 

My best lap of the day from Session 3

http://youtu.be/rZSmplo-EHs

 

Enjoy....

 

Rob


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:17 AM

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wow rob your flying !


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