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Can they just make a short body shock for the fronts. That's what this group really needs so more people can be low like newer cars without having to reinvent the wheel.

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Count ME In. I have had KYB's now on for 5 years on all four corners and Really would like something better. As for it to really feel like the car and I are one in a turn . Or what ever an doing with it.

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QUOTE (VaporParanoia @ Oct 7 2010, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
will there be an option for an increased rear spring rate, on the 98-02 accord many members i know won't buy them because for the price they can get a higher spring rate from most other brands for the same price. 12k in the front is great but 5k in the rear is far from ideal to us.


I think I would prefer something in the 5-6k range for the rear at most. Anything higher would get a little too stiff for a daily driver IMO.

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The more suspension options out there the merrier..

I had the Megan EZ 10KG/5KG on my 94 ls/vtec hatch and LOVED them.. It was a world of change from the crap I had on before. I had the hatch for more than a year and never had an issue with them being overly stiff, bottoming out, or even having that "bounciness" etc.. If I remember it had 15 settings rather than the 32 though.

my question is more on warranty information, would it be the same 1 year against mfg. defects?

I see the Megan EZ's, for say, EG's, are going for about $700~ shipped (15 way adj.. ) and the "street series" hover around $850-$950 shipped for most model cars.. If we could get enough buyers to bring this into a comparative figure to the later model vehicles, it would be even better. I expect them to be more because the included rubber/pillowball mounts, but comparatively close would be cool.

I think that's the thing that most Gnaws at me about our generation cars . Lets say The Megan "STREET SERIES" get built for our cars at a high estimate of $1150, then I would spend about $60 on shipping..That's $400 more than any other set of "street series" for any other model car. I know it's a supply and demand thing, but I mean Megan makes the kit for a damn SX4 suzuki.. I know far more people with 1G tegs, 3G civic's and 1G CRX's , than suzuki SX4's (maybe the SX4 is bigger overseas). I would figure ours would be a bit cheaper because the lack of a front spring and less material's and design with the macpherson setup. It's just depressing owning a car and having to pay 20-30% more than everyone else does on the same product.

I'm not ragging or anything, just giving my hopefully insightful opinion. I have had Megan products on many of my cars and never a complaint.

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QUOTE (RARECRX @ Oct 7 2010, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The more suspension options out there the merrier..

I had the Megan EZ 10KG/5KG on my 94 ls/vtec hatch and LOVED them.. It was a world of change from the crap I had on before. I had the hatch for more than a year and never had an issue with them being overly stiff, bottoming out, or even having that "bounciness" etc.. If I remember it had 15 settings rather than the 32 though.

You have the ballpark price out there, my question is more on warranty information, would it be the same 1 year against mfg. defects?



Yes, this is exciting. I am very interested in an affordable sport/performance/racing suspension setup. There is nothing available out there now except the Tiens from what I can tell; I am sure the Tiens are great, but they cost almost as much as the car itself these days. A little more affordable pricing would be great, but of course to get good stuff it will cost some. Keep us informed!
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BOUT FREAKIN TIME MARK. dude i remember we had this convirsation bout 2 years ago . tongue.gif
anywanys u know me im down for anything thing. i got me some teins already but ill buy these to have jus cause lol.
too bad i dont have a car to put it in lol .

oh one question are or will these be rebuildable if they go bad lets say after 5 yrs of abuse

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It would be nice if I could get a set of rears without a massive spring perch.
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Im sure some guys over here im Europe would be interested.

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im interested

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I'm in.

price is key like said.

overall suspension is what I look for and I am building for my car, what about sway bars, T-bars that fit to spec and are affordable. I;m just throughing things out there that our cars need like COIL OVERS setups which im down to buy but I need a set before Eibach 2011 :/ and in 6months I have enough for a Tein set.

good to know more our generation is fighting for our needs and want rather then let these wonderful cars go to waste.

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While I can't afford a kit in the near future, I would like to point out that with our suspension design there is one basic element that will split things into basically 2 schools of thought. (Location of torsion bar/pivot point)

1) Function over form
Performance minded guys (R compund) will want camber to increase with compression and decrease with expansion to maintain the most rubber on the groundd in the turns. This limits lowering to abour 1" on our cars. (without extensive frame work) Plus they would generally prefer a kit that would give them 2-3deg of static camber. (Really, they'd want adjustable pillows to cater to the track)

2) Form over function
Street guys will not be able to make effective use of the contact patch nor rely on a consistant pavement surface. This means they will benefit most from lowering + a camber correction kit.
Steet would probably be in the 2.5" drop range and 1deg static camber correction pillow.

I don't know, I may be way off base here... But for me, I'd want my street car to look good first and perform second. And my track car to perform first and look good second.

We are, ofcourse, talking about small differences here. Basically it's an inch of drop vs a couple % better cornering.
For the street, I'd want the lower stance. For the track, I'd want the last morcel of performance. And I wouldn't want to compremise on either.

I guess what I'm saying is, you need to find out if a street kit or a track kit is in higher demand. Or perhapse 2 different kits with abour 4-5 guys per kit is the way to go.

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My suspension is already set up, and when my Illuminas go, I'll only want to buy replacement shocks or struts, not a whole 'kit'.

Any plans to offer the components separately, and if so, are they direct replacements for stock components?

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QUOTE (EuphoricBlue @ Oct 8 2010, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I can't afford a kit in the near future,.......

2) Form over function
Street guys will not be able to make effective use of the contact patch nor rely on a consistant pavement surface. This means they will benefit most from lowering + a camber correction kit.
Steet would probably be in the 2.5" drop range and 1deg static camber correction pillow.


I am in this group, I would be more interested in a shorter, firmer, shock in the front so that I can eliminate all fender gap, but not have to UN-index my torsion bars when I make a trip from TX to FL. rolleyes.gif The roads through Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama SUCK! on stock suspension let alone lowered. I bottom out about every 15 ft., dry.gif thats not an exaggeration. I cant justify the money for tiens, just so I can get the look I want and not have to worry about my fillings falling out of my head when i go on a trip.
This is a really exciting development for all of us either way.

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Interesting! On one hand it is really neat to see another new company offering product for these cars. I do sell Megan and would be happy any time I could expand my lineup.



Compared to the Medieval-Pro kit I think we could expect people running on the street and wanting a slammed ride (read: younger folks) would love the less espensive option.

For performance I think it will be a toss up which is better, Megan or Medieval-Pro, based on the level of grip and driver experience. I recently chose Function/Form over Tein to produce a kit for my Acura people mostly because the cost would be lower and the desire is for a kit that rides low and smooth. Megans have a rep on other cars for being stiff kits, so maybe they will fare better...but the F2s cannot stand up to the 255s on my TSX. So for 185/195s these are probably fine for near limit street sports...but with higher grip levels, faster driving, and driving on the track with higher rates I think the valving and spring options on the MP will make it superior.

Of course, low cost is king...but you do get what you pay for. Ironically...these kits seem expensive. I would expect prices about 10-15% cheaper.

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I guess I don't get it.

How are you going to go coil overs in the front without addressing the tower strenght?
If you lower the car a lot, you'll still have suspension geometry problems.

I can already get a good shock package and rear springs set up, and sperical top hats with C&C adjustment from Mr.D

If it's low cost you are going after.....Go for it.

If you want to hit a Real home run, develop a new/modified sub frame with unequal lenght A-arms with the structure extending into the current towers. Then run coil overs. This would solve all the front end issues on these cars. Yes it would be more than $1000.

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Maybe I should come up with: Bashful Buford's Ultimate Shock Kit. $14.99. includes a drill, tap, 2 drain plugs, 2 zerk fittings. Kit drains the current shock fluid out and allows for replacement Grease (any weight) to fine tune shock rate. Also fixes leaky wornout shocks.

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